When I had my 3rd child in Switzerland my health insurance paid for a
'housekeeper' for a month after the birth.  My OB wrote that since it
was my 3rd child I would be tired!! They would do odd jobs, like
ironing, cleaning, cooking (although I never took up the last one).  It
was lovely to sit on the couch breastfeeding my baby while lifting my
legs up so that the cleaner could mop under my feet!!!

Ahh, that's what I call support!!

Sylvia
Sylvia Boutsalis
Childbirth Educator
Infant Massage Instructor
Adelaide

www.talkaboutbabies.com.au (updated and running very soon)Currently the
old one is still up.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John & Jenny
Turnbull
Sent: Wednesday, 23 November 2005 1:32 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Mother friendly hospitals


Brenda I love your idea!
Weather a hospital is baby or mother friendly or not, is kind of a moot 
point these days, you are booted out the door so fast.
When I had my first child, having just moved to a small country town, no

friends or family I was very much on my own, in reflection it was quite
a 
lonely experience. Having some where to stay longer than a few days, for

women who have no support would make all the difference.  It would be 
fantastic to see a trust started for lower income women who could apply
to 
the trust to have a doula for support during the birth and in the first 
weeks and months (maybe it could be government funded??? here's hoping).
I 
am only just being to realise how important the experience a mother has
in 
the first few weeks and months of her babys life really is to her, what
an 
imprint it leaves on her heart and psyche.
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From: "Barbara Glare & Chris Bright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 6:03 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Mother friendly hospitals


> Hi,
>
> I really disagree that baby friendly hospitals are OK for the baby but
> tough on the mother.  And if your baby friendly hospital is tough on
the 
> mother, then you should be looking at why - because it shouldn't be
that 
> way.  The newborn mother and baby are a unit.  They both surely need
to be 
> cared for as though they were one.  I think it's part of the problem
of 
> society that mothers and babies are pitted against each other almost
from 
> birth.
>
> Mothers and babies are both usually happier and calmer when together.

> If
> a mother is of the believe that she needs the baby away from her to
rest, 
> a common enough belief in our society, maybe all that needs to happen
is a 
> little empathy and good explanations from the staff "I know you are
tired, 
> but what we find is that mothers and babies actually rest better when
they 
> rest together." Just like you would explain to a mum that she doesn't
need 
> to rush off straight away and have a shower - there'll be time for
that 
> later.  Her baby needs to smell her familiar smell and get to know his
mum 
> (and breastfeed)
> Surely hospitals can be flexible enough for staff to take the baby for
a 
> while if needed - carrying in a sling is great modelling for the mum
and 
> keeps baby calm, or dad or grandma can help out.
>
> For every mother I hear when I'm assessing baby friendly hopitals who 
> say
> they would have liked a nursery, I hear many, many more whom the staff

> told that they must be tired and they would take the baby so the
mother 
> could rest - the mothers lay unsleeping and rigid in their beds,
worrying 
> if that baby they could hear crying was their baby.
>
> Barb
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> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 12:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Mother friendly hospitals
>
>
>> Wouldn't it ?
>> I always say baby - friendly is OK for the baby but often it's really
>> tough on the mothers.
>> We ought to be able to do service to both, compromise being the
operative 
>> word.
>> The old days of 'lying in & convalescing' were good for mothers &
babies, 
>> I agree with the previous post about too much being expected of new 
>> mothers. Especially after a C/S which after all is major surgery.
>> Yes, birth is a natural process but never the less it's exhausting,
hard, 
>> manual & mental labour. Women need to recover & recuperate to cope
with 
>> the demands of mothering, feeding & running a household.
>> The old 'lying in hospitals ' were not such a bad idea were they ? In

>> fact I've often thought of the need for a private facility offering
those 
>> services nowadays. Like an extended stay unit where women go post
birth 
>> for 1 or 2 weeks & get fed,nurtured, educated, assisted with feeding,

>> shown postnatal exercises, encouraged to rest, have massages, see 
>> naturopaths re healing remedies if needed etc.
>> In fact Wholistic Care !!
>>
>> What do you think ?
>> Idealistic ??
>>
>>
>>
>>> Dean & Jo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>> Ahhh!
>> mother friendly hospitals...now that would be worth pursuing!
>>
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