Amanda wrote:
"Perhaps it might be suggested that women should have an advocate in with them whenever the have to speak to these OBs either a midwife or someone like that, then maybe those OB's might choose their words a little more carefully" !!!!!!

FANTASTIC IDEA !! Take a doula / witness / advocate/ anyone who will support you.
Your story made me cry Amanda !!
To be treated so badly & have no one to share it with, but still go on to triumph!
You deserve a medal to have managed to birth at all !

With kind regards
Brenda Manning
www.themidwife.com.au

----- Original Message ----- From: "Synnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified!


I cried when I read what your lady from Melbourne wrote. Just remembering the way a horrible doctor spoke to me when I was very pregnant with my third who also happened to be a VBAC. Had to see a doctor because it was hospital policy, they had to "okay" my natural birth decision before I could go ahead with it. My Doula was away and couldn't come to the appointment. His total negative attitude and the fact that he spoke to the inturn rather than to me as if I wasn't even in the room, made my blood boil. Then he decided he guessed they could "let" me "trial labour". God did I wanted to slap him and slap him hard!!! But instead I said thankyou like a good little girl and drove myself home crying uncontrollably all the way (had to go to the hair dressers for app. right away). Composed myself and walked in, made excuses for my puffy eyes (hayfever), when all I wanted to do was scream my head off and rant about this bloody doctor but couldn't. I was so humiliated, felt like such an idiot and thought of all the great stuff I should have said to the doctors face, but because it was standing up for my own rights didn't say a word.

Anyway my "trial labour" turned into a beautiful natural birth, no drugs, no cut, no interference by doctors ( I allowed one to stick a needle in my arm and that was it) birthed with a midwife, student midwife, my husband and my wonderful Doula. On my knees gripping onto my husbands shoulders, with a beautiful baby boy weighing 4540g (yes I have big babies and it can be done!!!!!). I hope as a midwife to give every birthing mother that kind of powerful birth (no matter what way the birth ends up), I felt so loved, so cared for, so safe and so empowered there was no question I wanted to do it again. Which by the way I am for the 4th time in May next year.

I get so sick of hearing how women are treated by OB's when during pregnancy alot of them are very vulnerable and open to suggestion especially when it come to the OB giving them half truths in regards to what is best for them and their baby. Perhaps it might be suggested that women should have an advocate in with them whenever the have to speak to these OBs either a midwife or someone like that, then maybe those OB's might choose their words a little more carefully!!!!!!

Sorry! Wow a bit of a rant there!

Amanda

----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly @ BellyBelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 11:54 AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified!


Thanks everyone for your thoughts and replies, it was a huge shock to me but I guess, sadly, that many of you are well used to this. I haven't heard from
the woman since Saturday so chances are she's gone into labour. I pray it
all went as well as she hoped.

Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Director, www.bellybelly.com.au & www.toys4tikes.com.au
Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth & Baby
Australian Little Tikes Specialists

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cheryl LHK
Sent: Monday, 21 November 2005 1:25 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified!

Yes, she can turn up to any public hospital with midwifery services and not be turned away. Tell her to have a copy of antenatal paperwork she has (if she has it!!) and the midwives at the hospital can ring her orginal booking
hospital and get any records/pathology faxed over - or at least that has
happened to us in the past.

This is the sort of obs who needs a complaint written about him!!  But it
will turn into a "he said, she said" situation.  If she goes back to him,
take another person with her!!

Cheryl


From: "Kelly @ BellyBelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified!
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:44:48 +1100

One of the girls in my forums here in Melbourne just posted this - no
wonder
she seemed upset when I saw her yesterday - I had no idea at the time:



"I have just had the worst night of my life, and its taken me 3 hours to
stop crying uncontrollably.

My Dr, who I've been seeing throughout my pg is on leave (bereavement), and since I'm at 41 weeks, the midwives I'm seeing sent me to see the OB who's
filling in for him.

So I go for my appt.

First, he does a stretch & sweep without asking me or any prior warning.

Then he says he's booking me in to be induced tomorrow, which when I
questioned it he tells me I'm going to kill my baby cos I'm past 41 weeks.

The he goes on to say 'I'm not into any of that airy fairy [EMAIL PROTECTED] You'll
deliver on the bed, on your back. I'm not a vet.'

So I said I was planning an active birth, (which is what my Dr prefers)
and he says I'll have to see someone else and good luck getting in to see
anyone else at this stage of the game.

So now I have no obstetrician, no doctor and I don't know what I'm going to do. I'm seriously thinkg about fronting up tomorrow at the Royal Womens to see if I can have my baby there instead of the hospital I'm booked in at -
can they turn you away if its a public hospital?"



This is appalling - beyond belief. my blood is boiling it really is..



Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Director,  <http://www.bellybelly.com.au/> www.bellybelly.com.au &
<http://www.toys4tikes.com.au/> www.toys4tikes.com.au
Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth & Baby
Australian Little Tikes Specialists





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