Made YOU cry Brenda!  I was her doula who was so rudely interstate at
the time !!!  Amanda's story made me cry that I wasn’t able to be with
her!!!!

Amanda is right though, she did birth AMAZINGLY!!!!!  Go Girl!

Love Jo

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of brendamanning
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 8:53 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified!


Amanda wrote:
"Perhaps it might be suggested that women should have an advocate in
with 
them whenever the have to speak to these OBs either a midwife or someone

like that, then maybe those OB's might choose their words a little more 
carefully" !!!!!!
FANTASTIC IDEA !! Take a doula / witness / advocate/ anyone who will
support 
you.
Your story made me cry Amanda !!
To be treated so badly & have no one to share it with, but still go on
to 
triumph!
You deserve a medal to have managed to birth at all !

With kind regards
Brenda Manning
www.themidwife.com.au

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From: "Synnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified!


>I cried when I read what your lady from Melbourne wrote.  Just 
>remembering
>the way a  horrible doctor spoke to me when I was very pregnant with my

>third who also happened to be a VBAC.  Had to see a doctor because it
was 
>hospital policy, they had to "okay" my natural birth decision before I 
>could go ahead with it. My Doula was away and couldn't come to the 
>appointment. His total negative attitude and the fact that he spoke to
the 
>inturn rather than to me as if I wasn't even in the room, made my blood

>boil.  Then he decided he guessed they could "let" me "trial labour".
God 
>did I wanted to slap him and slap him hard!!!  But instead I said
thankyou 
>like a good little girl and drove myself home crying uncontrollably all
the 
>way (had to go to the hair dressers for app. right away).  Composed
myself 
>and walked in, made excuses for my puffy eyes (hayfever), when all I
wanted 
>to do was scream my head off and rant about this bloody doctor but 
>couldn't.  I was so humiliated, felt like such an idiot and thought of
all 
>the great stuff I should have said to the doctors face, but because it
was 
>standing up for my own rights didn't say a word.
>
> Anyway my "trial labour" turned into a beautiful natural birth, no 
> drugs,
> no cut, no interference by doctors ( I allowed one to stick a needle
in my 
> arm and that was it) birthed with a midwife, student midwife, my
husband 
> and my wonderful Doula. On my knees gripping onto my husbands
shoulders, 
> with a beautiful baby boy weighing 4540g (yes I have big babies and it
can 
> be done!!!!!).  I hope as a midwife to give every birthing mother that

> kind of powerful birth (no matter what way the birth ends up), I felt
so 
> loved, so cared for, so safe and so empowered there was no question I 
> wanted to do it again.  Which by the way I am for the 4th time in May
next 
> year.
>
> I get so sick of hearing how women are treated by OB's when during
> pregnancy alot of them are very vulnerable and open to suggestion 
> especially when it come to the OB giving them half truths in regards
to 
> what is best for them and their baby.  Perhaps it might be suggested
that 
> women should have an advocate in with them whenever the have to speak
to 
> these OBs either a midwife or someone like that, then maybe those OB's

> might choose their words a little more carefully!!!!!!
>
> Sorry! Wow a bit of a rant there!
>
> Amanda
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kelly @ BellyBelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 11:54 AM
> Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified!
>
>
>> Thanks everyone for your thoughts and replies, it was a huge shock to

>> me
>> but
>> I guess, sadly, that many of you are well used to this. I haven't
heard 
>> from
>> the woman since Saturday so chances are she's gone into labour. I
pray it
>> all went as well as she hoped.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Kelly Zantey
>> Director, www.bellybelly.com.au & www.toys4tikes.com.au Gentle 
>> Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth & Baby Australian Little 
>> Tikes Specialists
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cheryl LHK
>> Sent: Monday, 21 November 2005 1:25 AM
>> To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
>> Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified!
>>
>> Yes, she can turn up to any public hospital with midwifery services 
>> and
>> not
>> be turned away.  Tell her to have a copy of antenatal paperwork she
has 
>> (if
>> she has it!!) and the midwives at the hospital can ring her orginal 
>> booking
>> hospital and get any records/pathology faxed over - or at least that
has
>> happened to us in the past.
>>
>> This is the sort of obs who needs a complaint written about him!!  
>> But it will turn into a "he said, she said" situation.  If she goes 
>> back to him, take another person with her!!
>>
>> Cheryl
>>
>>
>>>From: "Kelly @ BellyBelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
>>>To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
>>>Subject: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified!
>>>Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:44:48 +1100
>>>
>>>One of the girls in my forums here in Melbourne just posted this - no

>>>wonder she seemed upset when I saw her yesterday - I had no idea at 
>>>the time:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"I have just had the worst night of my life, and its taken me 3 hours

>>>to stop crying uncontrollably.
>>>
>>>My Dr, who I've been seeing throughout my pg is on leave 
>>>(bereavement),
>>>and
>>>since I'm at 41 weeks, the midwives I'm seeing sent me to see the OB 
>>>who's
>>>filling in for him.
>>>
>>>So I go for my appt.
>>>
>>>First, he does a stretch & sweep without asking me or any prior 
>>>warning.
>>>
>>>Then he says he's booking me in to be induced tomorrow, which when I 
>>>questioned it he tells me I'm going to kill my baby cos I'm past 41 
>>>weeks.
>>>
>>>The he goes on to say 'I'm not into any of that airy fairy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>You'll
>>>deliver on the bed, on your back. I'm not a vet.'
>>>
>>>So I said I was planning an active birth, (which is what my Dr 
>>>prefers) and he says I'll have to see someone else and good luck 
>>>getting in to see anyone else at this stage of the game.
>>>
>>>So now I have no obstetrician, no doctor and I don't know what I'm 
>>>going
>>>to
>>>do. I'm seriously thinkg about fronting up tomorrow at the Royal
Womens 
>>>to
>>>see if I can have my baby there instead of the hospital I'm booked in

>>>at -
>>>can they turn you away if its a public hospital?"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>This is appalling - beyond belief. my blood is boiling it really is..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Best Regards,
>>>
>>>Kelly Zantey
>>>Director,  <http://www.bellybelly.com.au/> www.bellybelly.com.au & 
>>><http://www.toys4tikes.com.au/> www.toys4tikes.com.au Gentle 
>>>Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth & Baby Australian Little 
>>>Tikes Specialists
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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