Paul, That's weird, something is definitely not right in the site. To try and resolve this create a vanilla ootb site collection with no customisations and retest what Full Control users can do, event then it probably won't help with determining the root cause of the problem. It's damn tough trying to resolve the generic access denied errors.
Does anyone know how to determine what is specifically throwing an access denied error? Sezai. On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Paul Noone < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi Sezai, > > “…you can enter an AD User or a SharePoint Site Group and if the person's > account is a member of the group owner site group they should be able to > manage membership of the group.” > > Initially the owner of all the Member groups was the relevant Owner group > for the site. This wasn’t working, so I explicitly added the individual from > the Owners group. > > > > Still doesn’t work. She can successfully remove users but not add them. > > > > She gets the same error message when selecting the Master Page link from > Page Settings. > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Paul > Noone > *Sent:* Wednesday, 3 June 2009 9:34 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: Site Owner permission woes > > > > And here’s a screenshot. > > > > [image: cid:[email protected]] > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Paul > Noone > *Sent:* Wednesday, 3 June 2009 8:56 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: Site Owner permission woes > > > > Hi Sezai, > > > > Just your standard MOSS access denied page with a link to request access. > The hilarious thing about that is that the email went to her as the site > owner. J > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Sezai > Komur > *Sent:* Tuesday, 2 June 2009 4:56 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Site Owner permission woes > > > > >> She gets to the Setup Groups page but then it bums out when the page is > submitted. > > > > Any idea what the error is? I've tested creating a site as a Full > Control/non-site collection admin user and I am able to create site groups > in the new site and manage them, it works in my virtual machine. > > > > Sezai. > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Paul Noone < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Sezai, > > > > That makes sense. I should have been more specific. > > > > The person in question is a member of the Owners Group for the site in > question. Groups have been setup properly and rechecked for the site. > > > > But when she goes to create a sub site, she’s unable to setup new groups > for it. She gets to the Setup Groups page but then it bums out when the page > is submitted. > > > > The Full Control permission level is meant to be able to manage and > enumerate permission groups so I’m baffled. > > > > Am I still missing something here? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Paul > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Sezai > Komur > *Sent:* Tuesday, 2 June 2009 4:03 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Site Owner permission woes > > > > Short answer, site groups have Group owners who manage them - don't think > someone with Full Control who is not a Group owner can manage a group > (unless they're site collection admin). > > > > That's how Full Control works Paul, you can even stop inheriting > permissions in a list in a site and remove users who have the Full Control > role of the site, they can be reduced to readers of a list and there's > nothing they can do about it. > > > > What's most likely happening is the person with Full Control is not > specified as the *Group owner*. Try and manage the group settings, view a > Group and select *Settings --> Group Settings (Manage settings such as > group name and permissions)* and where it specifies the Group owner, you > can enter an AD User or a SharePoint Site Group and if the person's account > is a member of the group owner site group they should be able to manage > membership of the group. > > > > Sezai > > > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Paul Noone < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Any reason why site owners would be unable to manage or setup groups. They > all have full control so I don’t really get what’s going on. One particular > site owner has full control from the root site down and still no dice. > > > > The only solution (which isn’t a solution at all) has been to make them > site collection admins. > > > > Regards, > > Paul > > Online Developer, ICT > CEO Sydney > ------------------------------ > > Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support > List address: [email protected] > > Subscribe: [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: [email protected] > > List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss > > Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists > > > ------------------------------ > > Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support > List address: [email protected] > > Subscribe: [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: [email protected] > > List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss > > Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists > ------------------------------ > > Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support > List address: [email protected] > > Subscribe: [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: [email protected] > > List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss > > Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists > > > ------------------------------ > > Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support > List address: [email protected] > > Subscribe: [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: [email protected] > > List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss > > Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists > ------------------------------ > > Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support > List address: [email protected] > > Subscribe: [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: [email protected] > > List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss > > Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists > ------------------------------ > > Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support > List address: [email protected] > > Subscribe: [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: [email protected] > > List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss > > Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists > ------------------------------ > Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support > List address: [email protected] > Subscribe: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: [email protected] > List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss > Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Support procedure: http://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: [email protected] Subscribe: [email protected] Unsubscribe: [email protected] List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
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