Dr. Scott, :)

When will Silverlight for Windows Mobile be available? We dont want to see
only MIX demos :-P

This is a sort of pain for me heehhe...

[]s! Ratan

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Scott Barnes <[email protected]>wrote:

>  You weren't whingin Craig, you were telling me where your pain exists.
> Never apologise/excuse yourself for that :) and i agree with the below. This
> is good feedback i can take back to my team and influence change with.
>
> Treat me like a doctor, never lie to me about your pain, and in turn i can
> help diagnose and prescribe a new release for you all heheh :)
>
>  ------------------------------
>  *From:* [email protected] [[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Craig Dunn [[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Friday, 10 July 2009 2:17 PM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Do we upgrade to Silverlight3 on our dev machines?
>
>   Thanks Scott,
>
> >>You can't create Silverlight 2 Projects if you install the Silverlight 3
> bits, as this has to do with the SDK's etc occupying the same spots inside
> the devs computer.
> yeah I can kinda understand that bit. take this as a confused/dazed query
> rather than a jumping up-and-down rant.
>
> What I don't get is why I can't keep the SL2 DevTools but install the SL3
> Runtime. The SL3 installer (as per my blog post screenshots) errors out if
> you have the SL2 DevTools -- it *seems* to me that I needed to install SL3
> DevTools to override that error. Correct?
>
> >>Let me know if this really impacts
> It doesn't *really* impact me, as I will just continue to use a VM for
> everything SL3 related. But it does mean I can't view SL3 content on my
> 'main' PC until I'm prepared to lose SL2 development capability.
>
> At work, on the other hand, there are 25 developers some of whom are
> working on an SL2 release. Obviously we aren't going to upgrade everything
> to SL3 immediately (and force clients to download SL3 when they don't "need"
> to) BUT we can't even download just the SL3 Runtime to do compatibility
> checks without it wanting to install the DevTools as well (and losing SL2
> dev). Again, a VM will get around this, but it feels counter-intuitive...
>
> I'm repeating myself a bit here -  I can imagine there are lots of
> scenarios (debugging probably) that come into play - but at the end of the
> day we're basically talking about a browser plugin and I don't see why my
> browser can't know about SL3 while VS continues to use SL2 SDK...
>
> Anyway, whinging aside, I love SL3 and the speed with which it's come to
> market. As content-publishers, however, we are still wary of being the
> 'first' site to force a download on a customer and will want to publish
> SL2-level apps for some undetermined period.
>
> Thanks
> cd
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Scott Barnes <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>  You can't create Silverlight 2 Projects if you install the Silverlight 3
>> bits, as this has to do with the SDK's etc occupying the same spots inside
>> the devs computer. We wanted to have side by side installations of each
>> version but with VS2008 it was somewhat harder to implement than first
>> thought. Let me know if this really impacts you and specifically how, as
>> it's not really been a hot topic so if it's something that bugs you, rant
>> away at me as i'm more than happy to take this to the team in Silverlight
>> vNext.
>>
>> You can however run existing SL2 .xaps etc in Silverlight 3 as we'll make
>> sure the runtime itself is backwards compatible.
>>
>> Thx.
>>
>> Scott.
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* [email protected] [[email protected]]
>> On Behalf Of Craig Dunn [[email protected]]
>> *Sent:* Friday, 10 July 2009 3:11 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: Do we upgrade to Silverlight3 on our dev machines?
>>
>>  Silverlight 3.0 release 
>> notes<http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=157632>from
>> http://silverlight.net/GetStarted/ says
>>
>> *Silverlight 3 Tools and Silverlight 2 Compatibility*
>> Silverlight 2 projects cannot be created with the Silverlight 3 Tools for
>> Visual Studio 2008. To create Silveright 2 projects, uninstall the
>> Silverlight 3 runtime and the Silverlight 3 Tools from Add or Remove
>> Programs and re-install the Silverlight 2 Tools for Visual Studio 2008.
>>
>> The SL3 Tools download 
>> page<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=9442b0f2-7465-417a-88f3-5e7b5409e9dd&displaylang=en>doesn't
>>  really say either way...
>>
>> BUT it seems that I can't even view 
>> 3.0<http://conceptdev.blogspot.com/2009/07/silverlight-30-cant-upgrade-runtime.html>unless
>>  I
>> *do *install the tools (over the 2.0 tools)
>>
>> Catch-22?
>>
>> Like I said in my blog, I don't want to be website forcing the 4Mb
>> download until I absolutely have to... so will probably be SL2 dev'ing for a
>> little while yet. Back to a VM for all 3.0 work & testing.
>>
>> I can 'kinda' understand MS' approach... but then again kinda not... did I
>> miss something?
>>
>>
>>  On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Ross McKinnon <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Scott says, its all backwards compatible, so you should be ok. But we
>>> might have had a few, so, use your own judgement....
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: John OBrien <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Friday, 10 July 2009 6:34 PM
>>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Do we upgrade to Silverlight3 on our dev machines?
>>>
>>> It's getting late on Friday I know but did I miss a post about what
>>> happens
>>> when we upgrade to Silverlight3 as developers? It's awesome that the
>>> runtime
>>> is backwards compatible so existing sites won't break but...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1)      Can we still target Silverlight2 in Visual Studio?
>>>
>>> 2)      What happens to our corporate clients without admin rights, do we
>>> need to get their IT guys to update?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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