At 06:16 PM 10/25/2001 +0800, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
>At 05:14 PM 10/25/2001, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
...
>>I won't comment on the other strengths they alleged, like "smarter
>>programmers" ;-)
>
>I think I have stated on the mod_perl list that this is true to some 
>degree. Or rather, it's not that the programmers are necessarily smarter, 
>but certainly it's a lot easier to find experience in multi-tier 
>development when you advertise for Java programmers versus Perl 
>programming. It seems when advertising for Perl programmers, only 20% will 
>have ever programmed an object in Perl, of that 20%, 20% will have coded 
>with mod_perl and of that 20%, 20% of  those will have coded in a 
>multi-tier MVC environment.
>
>Whereas in Java, OO is a given. There is much literature and training for 
>OO in Java. Servlets is the defacto standard -- there is no CGI to fall 
>back on (equivalent to mod_perl), and RMI and similar tools makes 
>multi-tier development so ridiculously easy (there are even IDEs to make it 
>happen via a Wizard!) that it's difficult to find a Java programmer who has 
>not practiced multi-tier development in some capacity.
>
>Anyway, this is one of the reasons for this list of course... To raise 
>awareness for Perl developers who want to do enterprise developer, or 
>multi-tier or what have you...

Hi,

I have proposed at

    http://www.officevision.com/pub/p5ee/

that one of the artifacts to emerge from the P5EE effort is

    A self-training curriculum for developers to become "self-certified"
    as Enterprise Perl Developers, Enterprise Perl Architects, and
    Enterprise Perl Administrators.

This would attempt to address the level of enterprise development
expertise in the Perl community.

Thoughts?

Stephen


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