I'll through my hat in again. I've developed with older Borland and MS C++ (5
& 6). MFC is a joke. It's only saving grace is CString (that is a good design). I
know Sterling Commerce is moving away from all MS products for development (they need
cross platform support).. Java is being split by MS (JFC crap). Having developed
under 4 different OSes, I must say that, in general, the tools for Windoze are better
(ok, it has been several years since I have done Solaris development). I learned C++
10 years ago and thought it was really cool till I learned Java. When I had to go
back to C++, I thought I was back in the stone age (I do like Lisp best of
all)....don't ask me where I think I am now that I am back to C.....
In a "perfect" world, the Palm could be hooked to any platform and the CDK
would support any compiler...but then again....this ain't no "perfect" world...so we
have to deal with the shortcomings of M$.
bryon
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On 5/6/99 at 11:08 AM Jean Cyr wrote:
>At 09:17 AM 5/6/99, you wrote:
>>Yes, Borland has much better products that are easier to use. I've always
>>found their C/C++ development products to be superior than anything from MS
>>. If there is enough of us that says something to Palm, they will begin to
>>support other compilers. I think we already got them thinking in the
>>correct direction.
>>The CDK needs to be compiler-independent. From what I've seen, there may be
>>more Borland, VB and third party compilers being used in general than
>>MSVC++.
>>
>>Dave
>
>Yes, we've all heard this before. Everything and anything from Microsoft
>is inferior. This is a view commonly held by many MS bashers who have
>never had to do any serious development, and deliver real product. Why
>is it then that virtually all Windows products are Microsoft Foundation
>Class based and built using Microsoft Visual C++?
>
>By the way, Borland with its much better and easier to use tools,
>effectively went out of business some time ago. Borland had a good thing
>going years ago when they introduced Turbo Pascal for the IBM PC. Again
>the raised the bar with Borland C and its visual IDE. After that they
>fell behind badly. They were never able to keep up with the rapidly
>expanding feature set of the Windows OS.
>
>Finally lets not spend a lot of effort on compiler independence. It is a
>goal that has never been achieved. Even Java, with its anywhere anytime
>mantra, is splintering. We are familiar with MSVC, we do all of our
>Windows work using MSVC, we would much rather see Palm devote its limited
>resources to improving the Palm targetted application development tools.
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