well I can't give away all my secrets or I would be out of a job now
wouldn't I!?! ;)
E/.
....

To make it less "hackish", just get, save somewhere and then use the bounds
Rect of your regular output window to compare against; this will work even
if the main window is 320x320 and/or etc. 
Ron Nicholson Hotpaw 
<<http://www.hotpaw.com/rhn/hotpaw>> 


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