On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 05:16:45PM +0100, François Perrad wrote:
> plumage is not useful when a HLL author wants to test its HLL.
> plumage is useful when a parrot developer wants to test many HLL and/or 
> modules
> against the head of parrot. I hope that will become an usual practice.

Hmm.  I (and others, see [1]) had understood plumage to be more of an end-user
facing tool -- not something primarily for use by Parrot developers.  Am I
incorrect here?

If the answer is "plumage is for developers _and_ users", then we likely have a 
bit of a conflict, at least as plumage is currently written.  

Rakudo wants Parrot developers to test Parrot against Rakudo's master head 
(which appears to be what plumage does now).  But end-users should not be using 
the Rakudo master branch -- our current preference is for end-users to install
from the latest Rakudo Star tarball, or obtain an appropriate .deb/.rpm/whatever
for the OS.

Can we get some clarification on where plumage fits in the overall ecosystem?
(The README for plumage says that it *is* the Parrot ecosystem, but the 
ecosystem that plumage currently implements isn't at all the ecosystem that 
Rakudo 
end-users are likely to be working with.)

Pm
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