I forgot my reference in the previous email:

[1]  http://irclog.perlgeek.de/parrot/2011-01-07#i_3162095

Pm

On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 11:46:32AM -0600, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 05:16:45PM +0100, François Perrad wrote:
> > plumage is not useful when a HLL author wants to test its HLL.
> > plumage is useful when a parrot developer wants to test many HLL and/or 
> > modules
> > against the head of parrot. I hope that will become an usual practice.
> 
> Hmm.  I (and others, see [1]) had understood plumage to be more of an end-user
> facing tool -- not something primarily for use by Parrot developers.  Am I
> incorrect here?
> 
> If the answer is "plumage is for developers _and_ users", then we likely have 
> a 
> bit of a conflict, at least as plumage is currently written.  
> 
> Rakudo wants Parrot developers to test Parrot against Rakudo's master head 
> (which appears to be what plumage does now).  But end-users should not be 
> using 
> the Rakudo master branch -- our current preference is for end-users to install
> from the latest Rakudo Star tarball, or obtain an appropriate 
> .deb/.rpm/whatever
> for the OS.
> 
> Can we get some clarification on where plumage fits in the overall ecosystem?
> (The README for plumage says that it *is* the Parrot ecosystem, but the 
> ecosystem that plumage currently implements isn't at all the ecosystem that 
> Rakudo 
> end-users are likely to be working with.)
> 
> Pm
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