I forgot to mention in my last email but Jason hit it on the head with 
his statement about self learning.  I built myself a lab in my basement 
and taught myself virtually everything I know.  It started off as a 
small low end pc's I found or got from others and then built it up.  Now 
I'm in the process of rebuilding the entire thing and having nice work 
benches were I can begin to do more than just a few systems and misc 
testing.

Check out the thrift stores and such, even garage sales for systems.  A 
good number of people throw things out or sell them dirt cheap and when 
it comes down to it nothing is really wrong with them.

- Robert

Jason Jones wrote:
> I have a bachelors in CS, did all the coursework for my masters in CS 
> at iowa statebut quit when my thesis was tanking and i couldn't find a 
> prof to fund me and i ran out of $$  :-/ found the InfAs profs there 
> to not be very good at teaching & keeping up with new things that were 
> going on. most of my security / network knowledge has come from self 
> learning & learning from the network & security guys at the 
> universities b/c they seemed to be able to better explain what it was 
> like to be in the trenches every day than the profs who read to me 
> from an old textbook ;-)
>
> Recently entertained going back to try and do masters in InfAs/InfoSec 
> but it seems that most of the good schools that offer online are 
> fairly expensive. I've looked at JMU (the GRM n00bs went/go there) but 
> $700+ per credit hr (= $2100+ per course) is really hard for me to  
> pay out of pocket (or even justify more student loans for...) and my 
> boss would rather me not get an education that would give me a better 
> opportunity to switch to a career i would enjoy more so there's no 
> chance he would pay...
>
> anyone have other online masters infas/infosec degree recommendations 
> besides whats already been mentioned?
>
> thanks!
> -Jason
>
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 6:15 PM, iamnowonmai <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     Capella... I will bookmark them so that when I am old(er) and
>     finally have some pocket change I can go back to school. 
>     In all the fumes of academia permeating this list, I feel like the
>     only one who dropped out of college before finishing my degree. :-O
>
>
>     On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Robert Miller
>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>         I was told something along those lines, however hearing this
>         makes me
>         feel much better about beginning classes with them - thanks!
>
>         - Robert
>
>         Dan McGinn-Combs wrote:
>         > I know someone who knows someone who's cousin remembers
>         seeing ... oh
>         > no wait, that's another punchline. A friend of mine is on
>         the board of
>         > Nancy Campbell Collegia
>         >
>         <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Campbell_Collegiate_Institute>te
>         was
>         > telling me that Capella is an excellent model and works
>         well. When I
>         > said I was considering it, she recommended I "go for it."
>         >
>         >
>         > On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Robert Miller
>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>         > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>         wrote:
>         >
>         >     Does anyone have experiences or heard of the good / bad
>         in regards to
>         >     Capella University?
>         >
>         >     - Robert
>         >
>         >
>         > --
>         > Dan McGinn-Combs, Security+, GSEC, CISSP, CISA
>         > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>         <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>         > Google Voice: +1 404 492 7532
>         > Peachtree City, Georgia USA
>         >
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