For the record, I totally agree with you. OSCP is an impressive cert. Unfortunately, sometimes it's about those checkboxes.
On 4/29/12 12:22 PM, Lenny Miyasato wrote: > The OSCP is a much more brutal course and it is not for the light > hearted. The only drawback is that it does not have much mainstream > support by government or corporate America. The upside is that it is > highly respected among the security community. I also view the CEH and > CISSP as the complete opposite of the OSCP, but if you need those > checkboxes filled out, so be it. > > > > On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Mrs. Y > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > CEH meets the gov't DoD 8570 requirement. It's in the matrix along with > CISSP, but it's faster to knock out. So if you're going to do > contracting work, then it isn't a bad one to get. Most certifications > are simply about having the right ticket to get punched for the HR train > anyway. > > M. > > On 4/28/12 4:52 AM, Pat Moloney wrote: > > Thanks > > > > Unfortunately too late bought the books built a lab and have a good > > chunk of the course read. No stopping now. > > > > To be honest it's not the hardest exam going so far but it is at > least a > > start. > > > > Should have started years ago > > > > On 28/04/2012, at 13:50, Zate <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > > > >> I'd recommend PWB v3 (OSCP) over CEH any day. Much more useful > >> information and knowledge. > >> > >> Zate > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Pat <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Guys, > >> > >> Thanks for that, the classroom fees are looking a little bit out > >> of my budget as iv owned three cars that together cost less. > >> I guess I have to start somewhere and im in a job at the moment > >> where it may be helpful. > >> > >> So im going to go self study and see can i get it done in a month > >> or two. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Pat > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 6:50 AM, CP Constantine > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > >> > >> On 3/26/2012 7:11 AM, Robin Wood wrote: > >> > >> On 26 March 2012 06:50, Pat<[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > >> <mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> Im seriously thinking of doing the CEH exams and was > >> hope there is someone > >> here who can answer a question or two. > >> > >> > >> > >> It's worth noting that CEH teaches damn near nothing about > >> ethics, and the name implies that those of us that don't > >> possess it are by definition, unethical. (see Jack's rant on > >> that one). > >> > >> For the most part, it teaches you to be a 'tools > regurgitor' - > >> showing you how to do things, but not why they work the way > >> they do. > >> > >> In short, CEH is a great cert to look for on a resume when > >> you''re looking for people that can do particular repeatable > >> work within Infosec - as an indication of creative, critical > >> analysis skills within the field however, much less so. > >> > >> (or basically, if you want a guy to run the companies > internal > >> vuln scans, it's great - but I wouldn't hire an incident > >> response guy on the strength of a CEH). > >> > >> > >> _________________________________________________ > >> Pauldotcom mailing list > >> [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > >> <mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > >> > http://mail.pauldotcom.com/__cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/__pauldotcom > >> > <http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom> > >> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pauldotcom mailing list > >> [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > >> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom > >> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pauldotcom mailing list > >> [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > >> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom > >> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pauldotcom mailing list > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom > > Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com > _______________________________________________ > Pauldotcom mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom > Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com > > _______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list [email protected] http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com
