Peter, Pete, 

I do not think it is advisable to change any of the use cases under one 
umbrella because they are similar, and if it were me I would have it 
rural/remote but that is me….
For regulators who will have different rules, i.e., Peter's comments, I agree.
On many other issues you mentioned I do agree, but not this. Sorry. N



Ogen Nov 6, 2012, at 7:38 AM, Peter Stanforth wrote:

> It is those regulators again!  Using FCC rules:
> Those two use cases may have similar architectures but as a DB provider I 
> have to treat them very differently. Specifically rural is fixed to fixed and 
> hotspot is mode 2 to mode 1
> The messaging is different. The fixed device is required to register the mode 
> 2 does not. The mode 2 has to validate the FCCid of its associated mode 1 
> devices. A fixed device does not validate the fixed slaves associated with 
> it. 
> A fixed slave, fixed master and mode 2 talk to the DB the mode 1 never does.
> 
> 
> On Nov 6, 2012, at 9:32 AM, "Pete Resnick" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Nancy,
>> 
>> I think you misunderstood the intention of my comment regarding 
>> "merging". See inline:
>> 
>> On 11/2/12 5:54 PM, Nancy Bravin wrote:
>> 
>>> I will take exception to merging technologies:
>>> The blending of all or any similar groups that participated in this 
>>> effort or were considered from IEEE802. I.e. 22, 11, 16. 15 white 
>>> space groups.
>>> What what done by people from all groups was to be concerned about the 
>>> "consumer" as well as industry for different locations globally where
>>> WS devices can be used.
>>> Would it be cheaper to have one type? At what cost…the very people 
>>> that are in other countries,
>>> that are not under the FCC/Ofcom type structure of Regulations/Devices 
>>> types? Isn't what you have advised against by not mentioning 
>>> regulators etc in the protocol?
>> 
>> I am *not* suggesting merging the technologies themselves. Of course 
>> that's not something that the IETF can do anything about at all. All I 
>> was suggesting was that in the list of use cases in the document, we 
>> might be able to combine a few of the technologies into one section of 
>> the document where those technologies have a lot in common. The problem 
>> is not the number of technologies; it's fine to mention them all. It's 
>> just that there is a lot of duplicated information in the descriptions, 
>> and I think it would make the document clearer to group a few of them 
>> together. For example, the hotspot example in 4.2.1 and the 
>> wide-area/rural example in 4.2.2 have almost identical architectures, so 
>> I think we might be able to mention both use cases in one section.
>> 
>> I'm sorry if I confused the issue by using the word "merging". I was not 
>> referring to the technologies. I only meant that we could mention 
>> multiple technologies in a single section of the use cases document when 
>> it makes sense to group them together.
>> 
>> Does that make sense?
>> 
>> pr
>> 
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