Thanks VInce, that does help. It's a laudable goal, it would be nice to have all the regulatory information captured in the database and be able to desing adaptable devices. The advantages are obvious, starting with the certainty that today's rules will change in the future(substantially). It's a challenge in that you are trying to model things that don't exist yet. The best we can do is look at how things have been done so far. Using the FCC as (perhaps the simplest?) example, you have quite a bit to consider as evidenced in this thread which the current methods does not seem to (obviously) express, such as the different kinds of power limits given (all are importantand which one dominates your allowable TX configuration depends on modulation type, signal shapping and several other factors).

hope that helps.
-Ben


On 10/3/2013 4:47 PM, Vincent Chen wrote:
Ben,

Answers inline.

    Let me try that example again....missing a nested list segments.

    Features

    ·Explicit indication of authoritative time ranges and frequency
    ranges associated with the response

    What is “authoritative time range” and where does the value come
    from or how is the value calculated?

    ·Within a spectrum list, missing frequencies now can be
    interpreted unambiguously as unavailable without magic values

    I agree, but I still think that any radio vendor writing code for
    a specific ruleset would know that any channels not listed are
    simply not available.

    I am not even sure why the discussion of showing "unavailable"
    came up, but I can guess that it may be due to some language in
    one of the proposed regulations (ETSI or OFCOM ?) that implies a
    "push" model for indicating that a channel is no longer available.
    Maybe this started as an discussion on how to satisfy that
    requirement?


No, actually. It arose from the language in the FCC TVWS rules, where it's expressed as permitted and un-permitted channels, rather than ETSI/OFCOM that expresses a power level for each channel.




    ·If there are gaps in time intervals, it also may be interpreted
    unambiguously as no available frequencies

    Is this statement true only for the /timeRange/ specified?

    ·Still allows the protocol to express of full mask where allowed

    How do we express a /full mask/ in the protocol?

    I don't know what is  meant by a "full mask".  If the intention is
    to describe emission limits so that a WS implementation can be
    adaptable to different regions and changes in regional regulations
    over time, this representation does not allow the full story.  For
    an FCC compliant TVBD there are limits on PSD (BTW it appears from
    this example that "Psd" means maximum TX power and not the PSD
    limit n the FCC regulations) which vary based on device category
    and usage, there are max power in the TV channel limits that
    depend on device category and what is going on in adjacent TV
    channels, and other limits that require you examine other sections
    of the regulations such as 15.209 to understand (which specifies
    adjacent channel field strength limits for example).  I don't seen
    how those other values are represented in this format - for
    example how would we encode " 200 microvolts/meter electromagnetic
    field strength measured in 120 kHz bandwidth at a distance of 3
    meters s from the transmitter" which is a requirement US TVBDs
    must meet for emissions outside the channel of use.

    So I am back to the question I was asking - what is the intended
    purpose of specifying a "mask"?


One exciting aspect of managing spectrum via a Database is that you can move the complex logic you've described into the Database. The "200 microvolts/meter electromagnetic field strength measured in 120 kHz bandwidth at a distance of 3 meters s" can be converted to EIRP, and the Database may overlay all the applicable rules and present to the Device a mask that it must meet, taking into account its device type, device class, etc. Note that the DB's response is tailored to the device that makes the query.

For devices that contain software-defined radios, they just have to fit within the envelope defined by the mask and not have to carry around these per-regulator rules.

Should the protocol be ready to support such a model? or only be restricted to support the (few) existing rule sets?

-vince



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