No Joel.

Once an image is created it's not going to be able to go back and clean up
any imperfections.  My point is that the creation of the image itself allows
the ripper to separate the processes.  If you're ripping on the fly you
won't get an image file at all because the encoding is being done on the
data stream as it leaves the CD-ROM.

You really only need ask yourself a very simple question as to whether you
want to use on the fly or not.  Do you think that developers put this flag
in just to slow you down when ripping or burning?  The developer obviously
wants their program to rip and burn at the maximum speed and quality so why
would they build in a feature who's only purpose would be to slow you down?

It's pretty obvious I think that the trade off is that you forgo some
quality for speed and so it's really a personal choice.


Kevin
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> Kevin,
>
> You mean that when you have flaws on an audio CD, once they get written to
> an image file on disc, the encoding process is less likely to pick up the
> flaws, somehow, as it creates the compressed file?
> appy----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kevin Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Subject: Re: Kevin: On the fly, another question
>
>
> Hi Daniel.
>
> It's not that flaws at source can be fixed just because you've unchecked
the
> "on the fly" checkbox.  If there are flaws on the CD then they will cause
> issues whether you rip on the fly or not.
>
> The point I'm not making very well is that by breaking down a complex
> process involving the extraction and conversion of data from a spinning
> disc, there are less chances of issues arising if the process is instead
> broken down into a number of discreet steps.  Specifically, separating the
> process of reading the disc to extract all audio information before any
> conversion to MP3 is done using an encoder that is applying complex
> algorithms to the data to assess what it thinks can be disregarded and
what
> it thinks needs to be retained to fulfil high quality sound reproduction.
>
> Hope that's clearer.
>
> Kevin
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> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 5:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Kevin: On the fly, another question
>
>
> > kevin,
> > I don't quite understand.  If you aren't offered the opportunity to
> correct
> > an error yourself, then are you implying that somehow, during this two
> step
> > process, errors from a damanged or flawed CD nonetheless do get
corrected
> > for before they're written to .mp3 from the image?  Only without your
> > intercession?  Is that it?  Otherwise,I don't understand how the
two-step
> > process ensures that flaws in the audio CD source don't get written to
> .mp3.
> > Is my question clearer now?
> >
> > Thanks.
> > elps m isk e3tween
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Kevin Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 8:40 AM
> > Subject: Re: Kevin: On the fly, another question
> >
> >
> > No, it won't detect potential errors and allow you to stop, continue or
> fix
> > in situ.  By creating the image you are breaking down the tasks
associated
> > with ripping so that you extract in one step to your hard drive and then
> > convert from there.  When on the fly you extract and convert in a single
> > step.  It is for this reason alone that you are likely to have less risk
> of
> > imperfections when ripping to an image first.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > Kevin
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> > Subject: Kevin: On the fly, another question
> >
> >
> > > Kevin,
> > > Let's say I use the method of ripping that involves writing a file or
> > image
> > > to disk and then ripping from that, the method you prefer for its
> > prudence.
> > > Okay.  So what if a CD I'm ripping tracks from turns out to have the
> kinds
> > > of flaws that elicit this "jitter" error report and mean that you'll
> wind
> > up
> > > with a messed-up .mp3 copy?  In what way does this method actually
> provide
> > > protection?  Does it stop the process at some point, notify you that
> > there's
> > > a flaw, and offer the option to correct it by clicking on something?
Or
> > if
> > > not that, what?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
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