Chris,
I was teasing you.  I figured you use Chris in the spirit of independence 
and manhood, and that only Mom, when angry, uses the full name.  I once 
explained something like this about the opposite-- guys like me in my 
generation deliberately began to use our full names when we left home and 
grew up, because we didn't want to be the nicknamed kids of our childhood 
anymore.  I know it seems like the opposite, Chris, but in a way it's the 
same thing.  So when I sign myself as Daniel, I'm not being formal or 
something.  It's really what my friends call me.  "Dan" would bbe a totally 
different kind of guy.

Anyway, as I said, I was clear about all that stuff.  But the upside of your 
being generous with these important basic things (like, use a CD/R, not a 
CD/RW, if you want no trouble playing a CD you burn, is stuff everyone needs 
to know, and you're getting it out there.  That's what it's all about. 
sharing knowledge.

Daniel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Skarstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


heheh, hey, that's cool. but let's keep it to Chris ok?  The only one
allowed to call me Christopher is my mom, and that's only when I'm in
trouble. hehehe.
Glad you understand everything a little better.  Glad I could help.


At 12:14 PM 6/15/2005, you wrote:
>Hi Christohpher,
>
>Let me reassure you that I know what you're talking about below, and that I
>of course understand that anything encoded on a CD, compressed or not, is
>literally data.  I was just talking about the specific language being used
>at the moment to distinguish conventional music CDs from others.  Sorry if 
>I
>gave you the impression that I was so confused.  Everything's fine, and
>thanks for the explanations.
>Danny
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Chris Skarstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:04 AM
>Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
>
>
>Actually if you really stop and think about it, an audio cd is data
>too.  It's not like Vinyl where a needle is used, cd's are read by a laser
>which decodes the data into sound. an mp3 is just like this but just
>compress into a different way.  But we're drifting into a completely
>different realm of discussion.  Basically to make this whole thread a lot
>easier for everyone to understand, most of the big name brand cdr discsfrom
>Maxel and other big names are good.  I would say to buy the largest
>capacity possible, which at this point is 750 mb, or 80 minutes of audio
>content, if you're burning an audio cd.  If you're burning data such as
>mp3s or other stuff, you have 750 mb to work with which is quite a little
>bit.
>I'm sure over time the capacity will grow, but for now this is the max.
>Also, you're going to want to use CDR discs, which are write once only
>discs, as opposed to CDRW discs which are re-writable again and again.  The
>reason for this is because most audio cd players and portable units aren't
>able to read them because of the way they're made. But CDR discs are easier
>read by cd players which aren't on computers, so for the best availability,
>I would go with cdr discs.  They're not very expensive and while you can
>only use them once, you'll find them to be quite good.  Remember though,
>once it's written, it's written for good.  so make sure you have absolutely
>everything you want on the disc before burning.  It is possible to create
>what is called a multi-session disc which is where you can add more stuff
>to it, but I've seen lots of cases where the new data isn't able to be read
>quite as well. So it's best to get all the stuff you want on a disc all in
>one go.
>i hope i've answered all the questions in one post here.
>
>
>
>
>
>At 11:45 AM 6/15/2005, you wrote:
> >An MP3 CD is considered a data CD, as opposed to a music CD.  Hope this
> >helps.
> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:44 AM
> >Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
> >
> >
> >>I thought that data CDs were silent.  Is there a kind of data that has
> >>sound
> >>output?
> >>a
> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >>Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 PM
> >>Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi Tim.  I use the fastest speed, and it doesn't seem to have hurt my
> >>projects, because everything I've burned with Nero in a data CD project
> >>has
> >>sounded good.  I don't think there were any errors.
> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >>Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:40 AM
> >>Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
> >>
> >>
> >>>Sure you get to choose speed.  Most people just take the default speed
> >>>which would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you can 
> >>>slow
> >>>the burn down.  Look through all of the options carefully before you
> >>>start
> >>>the burn in Nero.  I haven't burned a cd in a while or I could tell you
> >>>exactly where to look.
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >>>Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM
> >>>Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others 
> >>>>I've
> >>>>tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets 
> >>>>written.
> >>>>I
> >>>>think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to 
> >>>>and
> >>>>the
> >>>>CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it is?
> >>>>I'm
> >>>>sure I'm not understanding something.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
> >>>>Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than 
> >>>>you
> >>>>need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy 
> >>>>slower
> >>>>rated cdr's and burn slower.
> >>>>
> >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" 
> >>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
> >>>>Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and 
> >>>>>see
> >>>>>that
> >>>>>there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
> >>>>>understand
> >>>>>the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
> >>>>>capacity.
> >>>>>But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is
> >>>>>rated
> >>>>>at
> >>>>>a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
> >>>>>myself
> >>>>>or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
> >>>>>burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest 
> >>>>>speed?
> >>>>>Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll 
> >>>>>have
> >>>>>to
> >>>>>sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why 
> >>>>>are
> >>>>>there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended
> >>>>>for?
> >>>>>1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
> >>>>>understand
> >>>>>how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to
> >>>>>buy?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Thanks.
> >>>>>*ROM
> >>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>>To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >>>>>Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
> >>>>>Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
> >>>>>those
> >>>>>are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and
> >>>>>$20
> >>>>>U.S.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "russell Bourgoin"
> >>>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>>To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >>>>>Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
> >>>>>Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>         I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever
> >>>>>> name
> >>>>>>brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, 
> >>>>>>though
> >>>>>>sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that
> >>>>>>so-called
> >>>>>>music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type 
> >>>>>>cd's,
> >>>>>>though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I 
> >>>>>>suppose.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Hope this helps.
> >>>>>>Rusty
> >>>>>> > At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
> >>>>>>>I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music 
> >>>>>>>CDS
> >>>>>>>and
> >>>>>>>also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.
> >>>>>>>While
> >>>>>>>learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a 
> >>>>>>>friend.
> >>>>>>>Now
> >>>>>>>I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd 
> >>>>>>>love
> >>>>>>>to
> >>>>>>>hear
> >>>>>>>recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that
> >>>>>>>there
> >>>>>>>are
> >>>>>>>a
> >>>>>>>lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or
> >>>>>>>without
> >>>>>>>jewel
> >>>>>>>boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something 
> >>>>>>>like
> >>>>>>>a
> >>>>>>>25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
> >>>>>>>durability.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes 
> >>>>>>>that
> >>>>>>>most
> >>>>>>>people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm
> >>>>>>>under
> >>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows
> >>>>>>>differently,
> >>>>>>>please say.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc 
> >>>>>>>Advisor:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Daniel
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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