Hi Kevin,

Good to hear from you!  I still appreciate how nicely you demystified CDex 
settings for me.

First of all, as I have said before, I'm not stranger to navigating around 
my own hard drive in Windows Explorer.  Nor to cutting, copying and pasting. 
So don't worry about that, I get it.

But here's the part that may amuse you and help you to see where my 
confusion comes from, at least partly:  You say that I'll know I'm in the 
compilation files list where I want to place the files to be burned when I 
hear "ISO One" Or  "Audio one (or with the numeral 1, whatever)?"  Well, 
that's a new bit of info to me.  I think I've heard something announced like 
that when tabbing around that dialogue or windows, you know the one, but I 
had no idea what that designated.  It didn't say anything like 
'"Compilation," for example.  I have no idea what people see visually when 
they're looking at this whole function, and it really frustrates me. 
Because in so many other, more clearly accessible programs, I can describe 
screen elements in the same terms as my sighted friends do, element for 
element.  That's why I say this is weird for me.  Difficult.

In any case, I'll try it this way once and see if it helps.  It wasn't that 
I couldn't copy files from the browser in the burn window, you see; I just 
couldn't figure out when I heard "list view" again whether it was the 
compilation window or not!

Ack.  Now Bruce, if you decide to withhold this message from the list and 
don't think it will benefit anyone else, please notify me so I can send it 
privately to this subscriber.  Thank you very much.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW


Hi Daniel.

Try using nero without the file browser.

Simply start nero in the usual way and start a new compilation.  Now start
windows explorer using windows key + E and browse to your music folder.

You can now tab back and forth between the two windows.  JAWS will announce
ISO1  or AUDIO1 when you're in the nero window and the name of the folder
when you're in the windows explorer window.  Use control + C to copy your
track from your windows explorer window and alt + tab to the ISO1 or AUDIO1
window.  As soon as you hear JAWS announce either of these, use control + V
to paste the tracks into your compilation.

Note that this method does not use the keystroke control + f1 as that is
specific to the file browser.

Regards.

Kevin
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yardbird" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW


> Hi,
> I don't mean to seem unappreciative, but I know all this.  What I've tried
> to explain I was having trouble with was actually finding the compilation
> list and being able to make the paste-in work.  If you're confident
working
> with this interface, it may be difficult to imagine what I'm describing.
> One thing no one has mentioned is that no matter how accessible some
reports
> and users say Nero Ultra 6 is with a screen reader, my experience has been
> that certain key elements simply aren't labeled, at least not in a way
that
> my screen reader, Jaws, can see.  Maybe it's different for others, I don't
> know.  But as I tab back and forth through the page that comes up at this
> point in the process, it's all hit or miss to me whether I quickly find
the
> file browser (which I do have set to be there(  and then, having gotten to
> the folder whose files I want to copy, which window is the files list
window
> and which is the compilation window, and I tab back and forth a lot trying
> to figure it out.  I'd be awfully happy if when I arrived at each of these
> screen elements, they would actually announce themselves.  For instance,
if
> I tabbed to the compilation list, and it *said* "compilation list."  Maybe
> it does, if you can see it, but it doesn't say this with Jaws.  Even now,
> I'm not sure if what I'm describing is clear to those who are more adept
> with the program.  In any case, I'm learning by repeating the process a
few
> times and making a few mistakes, but it's all right.  And of course I've
> gread the documentation, in fact I've read it a couple of times,
carefully.
> It's just that I' have trouble correlating what I learn there with what
Jaws
> is able to tell me about certain parts of the procedure.  Experience will
> teach me how to go through the steps more confidently, though, I'm sure.
>
> Thanks for your help.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Larry Higgins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:52 AM
> Subject: Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW
>
>
> All you really have to do is open up the folder in which the files you
> desire to copy, or convert to audio files from a compression format such
as
> mp3 from Windows Explorer, and select all with ctrl-a, and go to the file
> list field in Nero, and paste them in, and you are set to go.
>
> At 08:25 PM 6/27/2005, you wrote:
> >P.S.
> >
> >Russell, you're kidding about the dragging and dropping, aren't you?  So
> >far
> >as I know, that's an action that can be achieved only with mouse and
> >eyesight.  What I'd been trying to do, in a confused way (because I was
> >never sure if I was attempting to paste files into the right place) was
> >just
> >copy and paste.
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "russell Bourgoin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 3:51 PM
> >Subject: Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW
> >
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >          I can't help you with the white noise problem, but to make your
> >life easier, when you have a file selected, instead of dragging and
> >dropping it, try pressing control 1, the top row one, and that will put
the
> >selection(s) into your compilation.  You can use standard windows
selection
> >techniques, i.e. control key and space bar to pick non contiguous files,
> >and a control one will put them all in the compilation.  Hope this makes
> >life easier.
> >
> >Rusty
> >  > At 04:34 PM 6/27/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
> > >Last week, I bought my first supply of CD/Rs, a spindle of 30 so I
could
> > >start using Nero Ultra Version 6.  I knew there would be something of a
> > >learning curve, because it's been a little confusing to learn how to
copy
> > >and paste tracks from the window with the file browser into the
> > >compilation
> > >window, but I figured out some kind of trick about tabbing or shift
> > >tabbing
> > >at just the right juncture to find the empty compilation window and
paste
> > >the files into it.  I still can't describe just how I did it.  This is
> > >really a fumbling around situation.  What I wouldn't give for a truly
> > >screen
> > >reader friendly, well labeled more intuitively designed program.  BTW,
> > >I've
> > >tried Premier, and that didn't really do it for me, and I don't want to
> > >go
> > >into that again.
> > >
> > >Anyway, after that opening digression, here's my real problem:  The
first
> > >couple of CDs I burned as compilations from files on my hard drive and,
> > >in
> > >at least one case, copied from a music CD directly, worked fine.  By
> > >which
> > >I
> > >mean they played not only in my computer and my recent-vintage CD
player
> > >in
> > >my stereo, but they also played on my several-years-old Panasonic
> > >Discman-type portable player, which wouldn't have worked if I'd been
> > >using
> > >CD/RWs by accident.  But the friend who helped me buy these blank
discs,
> > >as
> > >well as another friend, reassured me that they're CD/Rs.
> > >
> > >Okay, so then I've burned another couple of CDs since those first ones,
> > >once
> > >a copy from another CD, and the other effort a compilation burned from
> > >.mp3
> > >files.  But these last two are behaving as if I'd used CD/RWs instead
of
> > >CD/Rs.  They'll play in my computer, and they'll play in my stereo
> > >system,
> > >but on my portable player, they just play as static or a kind of white
> > >noise.
> > >
> > >I'm not aware of having changed any settings on any of the tabs in Nero
> > >since the first couple of discs,but I still find this  program
confusing
> > >enough so that maybe, just maybe, I mistakenly changed something and am
> > >not
> > >aware of what I've done.
> > >
> > >for those who know Nero and are familiar with this stuff, is there
> > >anything
> > >at all that could have produced this result other than using CD/RWs
that
> > >won't play on lots of units like car stereos and portable players?
> > >Informed
> > >suggestions welcome.
> > >
> > >Thanks in advance,
> > >Daniel
> > >
> > >
> > >
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