The DVD version of the movie Ray is DVS described.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: DVD player - Re: Premiere CD Creator


>I agree, a nicely laid-out DVD player would be nice. But if each disk is
> different, it will be hard to standardize witha player. The only DVD's
> with described video I've seen are the ones for season two of the Canadian
> hit series Corner Gas. To get the DVS with those DVD's you just cycle
> through the different audio tracks: 5.1 surround, stereo, DVS, audio
> commentaries. My DVD player has a button for cycling through the various
> audio tracks.
>
> Bruce
>
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> On Mon, 2 Jan 2006, Peter Scanlon wrote:
>
>> I would really like to see this company develope a DVD player that was
>> truely accessible. It could have the ability to easily access the
>> additional "descriptive audio" which is difficult  to access because each
>> DVD is set up differently. Or at least that is my understanding.
>>
>> P.
>>
>>
>> At 11:43 AM 2/01/2006, you wrote:
>>> Yes, at least in my opinion. I will say it one more time before I give
>>> this subject a rest. Since there are other products out there that 
>>> require
>>> very little learning curve and perform the same or greater 
>>> functionality,
>>> the only message I get from this product is that blind people need to be
>>> spoon-fed specialized software. I see very little benefit to anyone,
>>> beginningg or novice, in paying twice the price of an off-the-shelf
>>> program for limited functionality and an interface which is only
>>> marginally, if at all, simpler than other off-the-shelf interfaces. I 
>>> have
>>> nothing against the company. I've seen a lot of their products and a lot
>>> of them serve a distinct purpose and I support them. But this product, I
>>> think, just costs new computer users unnecessarily and makes them think
>>> that they need a specialized program when they really don't.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
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>>> On Sun, 1 Jan 2006, Gary Wood wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Bruce.  Is there any reason that a program like this shouldn't be 
>>>> out
>>>> there?
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 12:38 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Premiere CD Creator
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hard to make suggestions for a product which I believe should not be 
>>>>> out
>>>>> there in the first place.
>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 1 Jan 2006, Brian Olesen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> Instead of kritizising a product made especially for the blind we 
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> probably write the company with serious info about, what they should 
>>>>>> fix
>>>>>> to make the program the very best also for the advanced users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards and happy new year.
>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Tyler Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 5:14 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Premiere CD Creator
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I use nero too. Is cd r win just as good as nero? If so, I'll stick 
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> nero instead. I liked roxios easy cd creater. I had version 4, but
>>>>>>> unfortuneately, when I got xp, I had to trash it and I ended up 
>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>> xps
>>>>>>> burning utility until such time when I got real player, which I also
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> very much. I also like nero, especially for mp3 and dvds.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tyler
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 12:04 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Premiere CD Creator
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No.  I think the company that makes CDRWin is goldenhawk or 
>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>> like that.  I downloaded a version once to look at but I was 
>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>> usuing nero so I stuck with that.
>>>>>>>> At 06:07 PM 12/31/2005, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Oh. Are you saying cd rw win isn't a worthwhile company?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tyler
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:44 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Premiere CD Creator
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have never used CDRWin.  I use Nero and I bought CD Premiere
>>>>>>>>>> Creator because I think there is a need for this kind of program 
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> I try to support worthwhile companies.
>>>>>>>>>> At 02:56 PM 12/31/2005, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I remember when I used cdr WIN, it told me I needed a skuzzy 
>>>>>>>>>>> burner.
>>>>>>>>>>> Is
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> true?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Tyler
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:02 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Premere CD Creator
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> With most of the major packages it can be set as a default.
>>>>>>>>>>>> At 01:07 PM 12/29/2005, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> CDRWIN has no gap between tracks by default. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.goldenhawk.com. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that with the other major products, this can be set, though I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>>>>> if it can be made a default.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Michael Babcock wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does this software, I have downloaded it, have the 2 second
>>>>>>>>>>>>> scilence between
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tracks, and if so, can it be removed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any one know of a good "free" or "cheap" software wich I can 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature on so I dont have the 2 second scilence between 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tracks?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Nolan Crabb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:50 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Premere CD Creator
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian suggested that less advanced users could benefit from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Premier's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> creator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I absolutely agree, and thank you for reminding me of that. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certain degree of shame for those times when I forget that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solid market for straightforward simplicity.  You're right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hundreds of blind and low-vision folks who don't want all 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arcane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> techno-goop that can accompany more advanced CD creators, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Premier program does, in fact, create a CD as advertised.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those occasions when I'm in a real hurry, want to just burn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mega-quick, and get on with other things.  I hope my 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> previous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't imply that the program is a failure; indeed, it is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact, for the market for which it was designed, I think it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well.  Thanks again, Brian, for reminding me of things I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have forgotten.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindest Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nolan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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