I'm not arguing.  It is a fact that copy protection is in use.  It is a fact 
that new schemes are being developed all of the time.  It is a fact that 
there was a ruling by a california court in 2004 prohibiting the use of 
extractors in dvd copying software sold in the U.S.  It is a fact that 
nothing has been done with DVDShrink since 2004 July.  I fail to see why 
you're getting so hyper.  I'm not arguing about anything.  It isn't up to me 
to point out DVD's that won't duplicate correctly especially as I don't use 
that software package.  Anyway, if I were arguing with you I'd do it off 
list.  All I'm doing is puting some information out to the list so some 
people can understand why their software doesn't work now or may not work in 
the future.  It makes no difference to me what people do with that 
information.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Olesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: DVD Audio Extractor.


> Hi,
> Then wy is any dvd legal?
> Any way. I copy movies all the time and have never had any problems with 
> dvd shrink.
> Yes dvd shrink is from 2004, but that's no argument. Windows  xp is from 
> 2002 - 2003 and I'm stil using it. smile
> Personally I'm happy with freeware especially when it works like Dvd 
> Shrink does.
> But everyboddy must feel free to paying for software if they like.
>
> Best regards
> Brian
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 1:09 PM
> Subject: Re: DVD Audio Extractor.
>
>
>>I haven't used it for at least a year now, so try some of the newer 
>>movies.
>> My comments are made about DVD decryption in general and if you need to
>> research this there is lots of information out there.  Note that the last
>> update to dvdshrink was in July of 2004, and if you want to see why do a
>> search on 321 Studios and read about the judgment handed down by a
>> California court that prohibits people from selling or developing 
>> software
>> with built-in DVD extractors in the U.S.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Brian Olesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: DVD Audio Extractor.
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Can you point at specific movies you can't copy with dvd Shrink?
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Brian
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 12:09 AM
>>> Subject: Re: DVD Audio Extractor.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Sly soft isn't who you should be worried about, and copy protection is 
>>>> a
>>>> big
>>>> deal, especially with digital media.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Brian Olesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 4:32 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: DVD Audio Extractor.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Oh yeah, and sales crap should offcourse always suppress real life
>>>>> facts,
>>>>> not?
>>>>> grin
>>>>> Just kidding!
>>>>> Any dvd is cool and worth any penny, but the truth is that these 
>>>>> skeems
>>>>> are not as big a problem as Sly soft wants us to believe.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>> Brian
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 5:37 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: DVD Audio Extractor.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Because new and varying copy-protection schemes are constantly coming
>>>>>> out.
>>>>>> This is made clear by the frequent updates to Any DVD.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Bruce Toews
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2006, Brian Olesen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> And why update a program, when it already works just fine?
>>>>>>> Any dvd is not freeware Dvd Shrink is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "anthony campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 4:47 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: DVD Audio Extractor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hi, dvd shrink has been updted in the last few months
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>> To: <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:05 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: DVD Audio Extractor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi. If you are talking about DVD Shrink this will not always work.
>>>>>>>>> DVD
>>>>>>>>> Shrink has not been updated in some time. Really, the best way to 
>>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> AnyDVD as I mentioned in a previous message.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> anthony campbell said the following on Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at
>>>>>>>>> 12:01:40AM
>>>>>>>>> +0100:
>>>>>>>>>> hi shane, the way round this is to get the programme dvd sherink
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> decrypt
>>>>>>>>>> the disc first.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Many people feel that they deserve some kind of recognition for 
>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> bad things they haven't done.
>>>>>>>>> Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc
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