Hi Gary. This has gone round and round a bit, so I completely understand your question. Ok, here's my story which I'll try to keep on topic. To be totally honest I have been unable to find a site where I can download a full demo version of Sound Forge 8. What I'm seeing is that Sound Forge 8 demos aren't available because version 9 just came out. Meanwhile it's unclear as to how accessible version 9 is. Further, from what I've been able to learn, what I really need for what I want to do is Noise Reduction 2.0, wwhich, when sold separately costs $250 or more American. So, what I've learned is that seeking Sound Forge answers is far more complicated than I experienced when I was learning about the plusses and minuses of GoldWave and DC6. Finally, if I can't demo a program first, I won't consider buying it. That's pretty much where I stand on it right now.
Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 4:27 AM Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes > I'm not following here. What happened that led you to conclude that there > were no advantages using SF? What version did you examine? > Thanks. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 4:54 PM > Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes > > >> Hi Gordon. Unfortunately I don't have any suggestions to offer in that >> regard. This is why I'm looking at adding something else to my system. >> I'd >> like to continue using DC6, of course, but I'm also looking for something >> that will allow me a bit more flexibility, both in adjusting filters and >> in >> automating certain restoration aspects. I considered Sound Forge, but >> aside >> from the filters added in with Noise reduction 2.0, I see no advantages >> for >> someone who works with records of all types as well as cassettes. I do >> use >> GoldWave a lot, but fI would like to see if there is something out there >> that will offer that sort of accessibility with a bit more speed. >> >> Larry >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 1:31 PM >> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes >> >> >>> Hi Larry >>> It's not the most intuitive but you have to use the Jaws Cursor. I don't >>> use >>> it much but when I have it's been easy to clean up and excite a file. If >>> you're used to DC6 you may just prefer using this and your experience of >>> which filter is good at which point. Mentor is just trying to automate >>> the >>> process. You click with the jaws cursor on the start button (sighted >>> help >>> may be necessary at first to label them) - once you're in the program >>> instructions are on screen and you click on the appropriate buttons. >>> After >>> a >>> few minutes of experimenting and understanding the logic of the buttons >>> you >>> can choose to clean with different recommended filters and to excite or >>> enhance with appropriate filters. If you like to tweak that's possible >>> too. >>> It's a good resource for bringing in files from external sources and >>> cleaning them fairly easily. Sometimes it's just better to use DC6 >>> itself. >>> Can I ask you how you navigate long files in DC6. I tend to cut them in >>> Audition before loading them into DC6. I haven't found an easy way to >>> select >>> areas in DC6. Have you? >>> While working through the dialog boxes of filters is easy I also have >>> difficulty in using the multi filter option. It seemsto involve a bit of >>> dragging and dropping. I usually settle for using the presets which in >>> themselves are pretty good. Have you a way of using the multitab filter? >>> Regards. >>> Gordon >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 5:41 PM >>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes >>> >>> >>>> Gordon, I did look at Audio Mentor, but couldn't make any sense of it. >>>> In >>>> many cases Window-Eyes and Jaws just spoke the word button. I could >>>> open >>>> an >>>> audio file, both the demo and one of mine, but couldn't seem to do >>>> anything >>>> with it. Is this an ap that should work with audio files right out of >>>> the >>>> box? LOL, maybe it's me, but I get more spoken feedback with DC6 >>>> itself. >>>> And >>>> you're right, it's a fine audio editor. >>>> >>>> Larry >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 6:19 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> If it's dC6 it's found on >>>>> www.tracertek.com >>>>> This site not only contains much software which is good for noise >>>>> reduction >>>>> but also much excellent equipment, usually with good offers. >>>>> Gordon >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 8:56 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> Just in case it isn't obvious, do you have a site for it? >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:17 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> It's audio editing software. I like it a lot, though some on this >>>>>>> list >>>>>>> feel >>>>>>> that it isn't accessible. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Larry >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:09 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> dc6? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>>>>> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 2:51 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I perform Audio Restoration on records and cassettes before >>>>>>>>>transferring >>>>>>>>> them to CD. As this is what I do professionally, I want to perform >>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>> tasks both quickly and with a level of precision that customers >>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> right >>>>>>>>> to expect. Will that aspect of Sound Forge work efficiently with >>>>>>>>> Window-eyes >>>>>>>>> without additional set files? I am now using GoldWave and DC6 to >>>>>>>>> perform >>>>>>>>> such tasks and need to be sure that Sound Forge will increase >>>>>>>>> speed >>>>>>>>> andefficiency before going to the expense of buying it. Any >>>>>>>>> thoughts? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Larry >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: "Jerry Richer" < Com> >>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. 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