Hi Gary. This has gone round and round a bit, so I completely understand 
your question. Ok, here's my story which I'll try to keep on topic. To be 
totally honest I have been unable to find a site where I can download a full 
demo version of Sound Forge 8. What I'm seeing is that Sound Forge 8 demos 
aren't available because version 9 just came out. Meanwhile it's unclear as 
to how accessible version 9 is. Further, from what I've been able to learn, 
what I really need for what I want to do is Noise Reduction 2.0, wwhich, 
when sold separately costs $250 or more American. So, what I've learned is 
that seeking Sound Forge answers is far more complicated than I experienced 
when I was learning about the plusses and minuses of GoldWave and DC6. 
Finally, if I can't demo a program first, I won't consider buying it. That's 
pretty much where I stand on it right now.

Larry
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


> I'm not following here.  What happened that led you to conclude that there
> were no advantages using SF?  What version did you examine?
> Thanks.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 4:54 PM
> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>
>
>> Hi Gordon. Unfortunately I don't have any suggestions to offer in that
>> regard. This is why I'm looking at adding something else to my system. 
>> I'd
>> like to continue using DC6, of course, but I'm also looking for something
>> that will allow me a bit more flexibility, both in adjusting filters and
>> in
>> automating certain restoration aspects. I considered Sound Forge, but
>> aside
>> from the filters added in with Noise reduction 2.0, I see no advantages
>> for
>> someone who works with records of all types as well as cassettes. I do 
>> use
>> GoldWave a lot, but fI would like to see if there is something out there
>> that will offer that sort of accessibility with a bit more speed.
>>
>> Larry
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 1:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>
>>
>>>    Hi Larry
>>> It's not the most intuitive but you have to use the Jaws Cursor. I don't
>>> use
>>> it much but when I have it's been easy to clean up and excite a file. If
>>> you're used to DC6 you may just prefer using this and your experience of
>>> which filter is good at which point. Mentor is just trying to automate
>>> the
>>> process. You click with the jaws cursor on the start button (sighted 
>>> help
>>> may be necessary at first to label them) - once you're in the program
>>> instructions are on screen and you click on the appropriate buttons.
>>> After
>>> a
>>> few minutes of experimenting and understanding the logic of the buttons
>>> you
>>> can choose to clean with different recommended filters and to excite or
>>> enhance with appropriate filters. If you like to tweak that's possible
>>> too.
>>> It's a good resource for bringing in files from external sources and
>>> cleaning them fairly easily. Sometimes it's just better to use DC6
>>> itself.
>>> Can I ask you how you navigate long files in DC6. I tend to cut them in
>>> Audition before loading them into DC6. I haven't found an easy way to
>>> select
>>> areas in DC6. Have you?
>>> While working through the dialog boxes of filters is easy I also have
>>> difficulty in using the multi filter option. It seemsto involve a bit of
>>> dragging and dropping. I usually settle for using the presets which in
>>> themselves are pretty good. Have you a way of using the multitab filter?
>>> Regards.
>>> Gordon
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 5:41 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>>
>>>
>>>> Gordon, I did look at Audio Mentor, but couldn't make any sense of it.
>>>> In
>>>> many cases Window-Eyes and Jaws just spoke the word button. I could 
>>>> open
>>>> an
>>>> audio file, both the demo and one of mine, but couldn't seem to do
>>>> anything
>>>> with it. Is this an ap that should work with audio files right out of
>>>> the
>>>> box? LOL, maybe it's me, but I get more spoken feedback with DC6 
>>>> itself.
>>>> And
>>>> you're right, it's a fine audio editor.
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 6:19 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> If it's dC6 it's found on
>>>>> www.tracertek.com
>>>>> This site not only contains much software which is good for noise
>>>>> reduction
>>>>> but also much excellent equipment, usually with good offers.
>>>>> Gordon
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 8:56 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> Just in case it isn't obvious, do you have a site for it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:17 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's audio editing software. I like it a lot, though some on this
>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>> feel
>>>>>>> that it isn't accessible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:09 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> dc6?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 2:51 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I perform Audio Restoration on records and cassettes before
>>>>>>>>>transferring
>>>>>>>>> them to CD. As this is what I do professionally, I want to perform
>>>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>>>> tasks both quickly and with a level of precision that customers
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>> to expect. Will that aspect of Sound Forge work efficiently with
>>>>>>>>> Window-eyes
>>>>>>>>> without additional set files?  I am now using GoldWave and DC6 to
>>>>>>>>> perform
>>>>>>>>> such tasks and need to be sure that Sound Forge will increase 
>>>>>>>>> speed
>>>>>>>>> andefficiency before going to the expense of buying it. Any
>>>>>>>>> thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>> From: "Jerry Richer" <        Com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:38 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     I use Sound Forge every day with Window Eyes and no set 
>>>>>>>>>> files.
>>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>> works fine for me but it depends on what you want to do.  Some of
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> dialogues I can't make any sense out of.  Most of the things I
>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> don't want to use anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>
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