Of course it could be, it certainly does much of what Winamp does from what I've read and played with thus far and its significantly smaller in size. Why I like it is because its cross-platform so whether you're running a Mac, Windows or LINUS, it will run on all machines and has (as I'm discovering) some standard interfaces for all operating systems. The other reason I like iit is because (thus far) its played every stream and file format I've thrown at it. .
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of albert griffith Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 3:15 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC You say you aren't recommending VLC as a replacement. Why not? Could it be? thanks -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 4:08 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC Ok well if I may address your concerns as I believe I can certainly the first 2. Yes, Mac's come with their own accessible software, good that a major company is developing software and given the fact that VoiceOver has only been with us for a bit over 2 and a half years I reckon Apple (all-round) have done a fair job, yeah I'm disappointed myself because some areas have been lacking in advancement, web accessability for example but Apple do frequently update their software and they do listen so the longer people give Apple feedback as to what the problems are then the more chance we have of getting things done. To give you an example, Leopard was released on 26 October and an updated 10.5.1 was released towards the end of last week, first I knew of it was when both Mac's alerted me that updates were available. I too! Live in an area which is some way from an Apple store and it did present a small challenge to me, I had problems with the logic board of my Imac and I needed to get the machine back to the store, once there? The machine was fixed in 48 hours, then came the problem of getting the machine back. Solution to the problem? I've just purchased myself a "2-year" on-site warrantee for $255.00 (Australian) and that to me is good valume-for-money as I get service 24-7 and the machine is dealt with with 48 hours. Now for our U.S. customers? Well I can tell you this, you're entitled to far better service than Australian customers get if they get their Apple from a franchise store as I did. Firstly, I believe that if you order online or through Apple's toll-free number then you automatically qualify for some sort of on-site warrantee and you get the machine delivered free of charge, I cannot confirm this exactly but I'm sure that Apple users on this list can. Apple difficult to deal with when it comes to drivers? Well it depends on how you look at that but firstly (and this is only my experience), there are a lot of myths and jealousy's that come with Apple because Apple (unlike Microsoft ) exhibit tight control over what drivers and what parts even make up an Apple computer. One of the results of this approach is of course the stable OS which is Mac OS 10.5 Leopard, the well eingineered and well-designed product line which is the Apple Mac etc. TO illustrate the point further still, we all know that Windows machines do have conflicting drivers from time-to-time, this problem is virtually illiminated with Apple machines because the Apple engineers test and give the go ahead to drivers before they make the public eye.. If you think this a good thing (as I do for the reasons I've outlined above) then fine but I for one wish that Microsoft would put more controls over drivers and what's out there, if that were the case then Windows would be a better product all round than it is now. As I write this message, I've done a it of digging, yes, Microsoft will test drivers but for an outragious fee, I think we're talking a couple of thousand dollars so its no wonder that software developers (those who can't aford it) are just writing drivers and hoping for the best. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 9:41 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC In the first place Macs come with their own access software as a part of the current OS. In the second place, the reason I'm not using one is that no place sells them within 40 miles and that's more of a trip than I want to make. In the third place, tech support people have made it a point to describe in detail how lousy Apple has been to work with in terms of driver development. That doesn't mean I wouldn't be happy to try a Mac, but I'm not going to go nuts over one. I don't go out of my way to call something Linsucks or cast equivalent aspersions on Apple, but the Winblows, Internet Exploder nonsense wastes everyone's time and bandwidth. I think it pretty obvious that if the MS world had that many problems, it wouldn't have survived and the same for Apple. Both companies have their problems. ----- Original Message ----- From: Timberwolf To: PC Audio Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 5:43 PM Subject: Re: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC Ok. Lets make a few things clear. 1. What in the world is your problem with windows. If you don't like it, don't use it, not to mention don't call it a trashbox, you don't see me sittin here calling your mack a trashbox. I haven't used a mack because I don't know if there are any screenreaders available and certainly I haven't heard of any. 2. Secondly because, imho anyway, apple's products are a bit overpriced and not to mention I wish other companies would support mack (if mack is so great, etc). I've got an acer aspire 3000+ here, hp pavillion dv5220, and just recently got an alienware, 2.3 ghz intel duel core processor, 2 gb ram, top of the line etc. Now, the reason I'm saying this is because some people, like you, prefer mack. That's perfectly fine. Some people such as myself like windows and are used to it, therefore use it. Now, I'm not saying anything bad about a mack- so why're you jabbing fingers at windows? for that matter, if mack does everything you say it does, why are you using windows in the first place if you don't like it? I hope I don't look like I'm flaming you but, that's just my oppinion, and also I kind of feel insulted when people call windows a trashbox, while not giving supporting evidence of such. While microsoft may have its drawbacks, I see nothing wrong with vista, just some things to get used to, and besides, people are complaining about it all the time, but I personally don't mind it. Now I know this is a pc audio list and will add that it could be your computer that's causing the crash. winamps never crashed on my system, although I once loaded a .ogg file which free download manager was downloading and it lagged my pc baaaaad! (of course, this was on the acer with like 1.6 ghz, 256 mb ram) so I upgraded the thing with another 512 mb. So hey, Dane, if you don't mind e-mailing me off list, I'd like to see a mack in action and get the specs on the thing. Also would like to know if any screenreaders are available and how good they work. - Tyler visit my website! http://www.valiant.789mb.com note: Make sure you have your speakers turned on to get a cool-sounding intro! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:45 AM Subject: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC > Ok folks, I tried out the latest (and greatest?) version of Winamp and I > had > a few problems running it on the trashbox (otherwise known as the Windows > PC) <smile> For some reason (I don't know why) Winamp it seems, was > responsible for the Trashbox crashing every few minutes. > > Naturally this behavior to anyone (particularly to a Mac user where > crashes > are few and far between) <lol> is totally unacceptable so back onto the > machine went VLC media Player, it was listening to both that I make the > following observations. > > Firstly, VLC does a far better job ad decoding media such as MP3 etc, you > can hear the differences quite distinctly. > > Controls are similar to those presented in Winamp and in a lot of ways, > VLC > is easier to use with a screen reader, not as cluttered as Winamp seems to > be. > > I've been using VLC on the Mac for ages but haven't had too much > experience > with it on the PC, the command set is slightly different but that's > probably > due mainly to differences in the keyboard layout between Mac and Trashbox > Windows PC. For example, you go to previous and next tracks in VLC under > the > Mac using command-left and command-right arrow respectively, on the PC > version you use P and N on the keyboard > > If anyone would like to give this excellent little media player a try then > use your friend Google and look for "vlc", you'll have no trouble finding > it. 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