Ok, well I don't think that Exact Audio Copy can be described as a  
gimic, the technology used in Exact Audio Copy has been used for a  
long time under LINUX in various CD Rippers, its also used in Max  
Audio Ripper under the Mac and LINUX.

On 24/11/2007, at 2:58 AM, albert griffith wrote:

> I think the developer of EAC has a good gimmick.  However, het me  
> say in his
> defense that he's not trying to make money with his off-set focus.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> ]
> On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 2:06 AM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor:  
> they've
> changed things
>
> Well I don't know what you're getting at quite frankly, I've heard  
> some
> things in my time but I've never heard that before <smile> Faulty CD  
> drives
> won't work with any CD ripper wither it be EAC, Windows Media Player  
> or
> whatever.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> ]
> On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd
> Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 8:31 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor:  
> they've
> changed things
>
> Your situation would be that you have a bit of a dodgy CD-ROM drive  
> if you
> need to use EAC.  If you have a good quality drive you don't need to  
> go to
> those extremes.  You should always use error correction of course  
> which will
>
> slow down your media player rips but you will get perfect results  
> with a
> good quality CD-ROM and CD's in fair to good condition.
>
> Kevin
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:17 AM
> Subject: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've
> changed things
>
>
> Media Player etc are probably fine for most people but in my  
> situation where
> "perfect rips" and "perfect copies" are a "must have" then Media  
> Player and
> others are just out of the race. As I said before, those people who  
> are
> sticking with Easy CD DA Extractor (that includes Yorus Truly) are  
> on a
> pretty good thind I reckon but still, Exact Audio Copy and Max  
> Ripper are
> the only things I've tested which do "perfect rips" and "perfect  
> copies" of
> audio CD'S.
> Compression? Well Danna sort of had it right and I reckon her ears are
> functioning <smile>, AAC+ is a damn good standard, its regretable that
> (unfortunately) EAC doesn't (as far as I know) support AAC+  
> internally so
> you have to run an external encoder, either that or do your rips  
> with EAC
> (as Wave files) and convert them with something like Easy CD DA  
> extractor
> which will let you do thousands of files in a batch as everyone  
> knows, that
> almost defeats the purpose but still the rips are more accurate. EAC  
> is (if
> set up correctly) considerably slower than Windows Media Player,  
> taking say
> 7-10 minutes to rip a CD however this speed reduction is due to the
> comparison ripping the programme does, reading and re-reading each  
> sector
> and comparing the values, I was also interested to read that Exact  
> Audio
> Copy will handle copy-protected audio CD'S, not that you see too  
> many of
> those round these days I don't think.
> Now for those who will sware by MP3 till their "dying day" well I  
> admire
> your courage and (whilst I admit that MP3 is getting a bit long in  
> the tooth
> now) you can get some very nice quality out of LAME if you tweek it,  
> that
> means not using the defaults offered to you by your ripper. If  
> you're using
> Winamp to play your MP3 files then it pays to use the MAD MP3 output
> plug-in, you'll hear the difference and MAD is not the only great MP3
> decoder for Winamp either. VLC'S decoder seems to be rather nice.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of albert griffith
> Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 8:19 PM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
>
> Exact audio copy was developed by a good programmer who really likes  
> his
> tracks to be ripped neatly.  It's a good program but I like the  
> media player
> as well if I'm ripping to a format they support.  Example: I've  
> ripped 500
> disks in the last two weeks with it and it's been a breeze.  I just  
> push in
> the disk drawer and away it goes and ejects the disk when the  
> ripping is
> complete.  EAC. has this drive off-set stuff and while it makes  
> files look
> better on paper, I can't hear a difference.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 9:40 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
>
> I'm not familiar with EAC. Details, please. What makes it superior?  
> I've
> been happily ripping with Easy CDDA since version 4 or 5, I think.  
> Can't
> imagine an easier interface, or better results.
>
> Blessed Be,
>
> Dana
> that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer  
> pronounces
> them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation  dictionary  
> that
> Dana=dayna.
>
> D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
>
>
> Yeah, well the software is only going to be used for conversion here  
> as I
> find that EAC does a far better job at ripping, honestly that  
> software is
> the best ripper on the earth I reckon.
>
> On 22/11/2007, at 2:29 PM, Dana S. Leslie wrote:
>
>> Dane,
>>
>> Glad to help. And, thank you for alerting me to the change. As I said
>> in my last message, I mostly only ever use the program to rip CDs to
>> my hard drive. But, occasionally, I will convert some files. If you
>> hadn't alerted me, I probably would have been happily ripping away
>> with version 11, and been very surprised and frustrated when I did,
>> eventually, want to do a conversion.
>>
>> Blessed Be,
>>
>> Dana
>> that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer
>> pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation
>> dictionary that Dana=dayna.
>>
>> D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:54 PM
>> Subject: RE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
>>
>>
>> Thanks Danna, just tried it and its working a treat.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> audio.org] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie
>> Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 5:33 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
>>
>> Dane,
>>
>> Here's what I found:
>> In the converter, F8 no longer works to start the conversion. You  
>> have
>> to use the JAWS cursor to find the Convert Files button, and click it
>> with the JAWS cursor. The button is located a few lines up from the
>> bottom of the screen, toward the right side of the screen.
>>
>> In the burner, F8 still works to begin the burn. But, I found, it
>> seems to take longer than it used to get the files you've selected
>> loaded into the To
>>
>> Be Burned list box. Once they are, though, F8 starts the burn, and
>> everything works just as it used to.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>> Blessed Be,
>>
>> Dana
>> that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer
>> pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation
>> dictionary that Dana=dayna.
>>
>> D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 9:01 AM
>> Subject: RE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
>>
>>
>>> Thanks for that, see how you get on. A friend alerted me to this  
>>> 9for
>>> want of a better word) problem, I was up until a few days ago using
>>> Easy CD DA Extractor Version 10.5 and things worked a bit
>>> differently, you used the context key on a folder, selected convert
>>> with Easy CD DA Extractor, the software would launch, you made your
>>> settings (I.E. output format, folders, file name etc) and pressed  
>>> f8,
>>> the conversion process started and now this thing just won't work  
>>> for
>>> me for some reason, won't work for my friend either so if anyone  
>>> gets
>>> it working let us know.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> audio.org] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie
>>> Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 12:56 AM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
>>>
>>> I haven't had an occasion to try burning or converting, since I
>>> upgraded to 11. I'll try playing with those features, over the
>>> holiday weekend, and report back.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 8:21 AM
>>> Subject: RE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
>>>
>>>
>>>> They're enabled, the converter actually launches but the convet
>>>> button and option in the actions menu is disabled for some reason.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 12:16 AM
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
>>>>
>>>> Go to Options, General Settings, Do you have the Enable Windows
>>>> Explorer Context Menus check box checked?
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:39 AM
>>>> Subject: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ok, in the older version of Easy CD DA Extractor I was using  
>>>>> before
>>>>> I upgraded, I was able to say select a folder containing
>>>>> sub-folders containing say wave files, press the Windows Context
>>>>> key from Windows Explorer, click on the "Convert With Easy CD DA
>>>>> Extractor", the software would then launch where I could then
>>>>> change the settings for my required job and press f8 to start the
>>>>> conversion. Now this behavior has changed, the option is still
>>>>> there but the "convert" button is disabled on the screen and in  
>>>>> the
>>>>> Easy CD DA Actions menu, anyone have any idea of what I'm doing
>>>>> wrong?
>>>>>
>>>>>
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