Bruce, thanks for that. It seems a little clearer now,
Billy,
Dinky Doo
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: sound editing?


> Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
> Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
> vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal, since
> it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. I
> copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
> mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
> can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
> thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
> you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
> effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin as
> it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice with
> the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background music
> as well.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -0000, "TrueBlue & Proud"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> Bruce,
>> can you please explain how you achieved this?.
>> Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go into
>> goldwave
>> and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
>> If they are playing separately, then how can you record the finished
>> project?.
>> Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something here, which
>> is
>> possible,
>> Billy,
>> Dinky Doo
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>
>>
>> >I recorded the vocal track separately with Winamp playing the music 
>> >track
>> > in the background, then I mixed the two togetehr using Gold Wave. There
>> > are other ways to do it, this is my prefered way.
>> >
>> > Bruce
>> >
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>> > On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:
>> >
>> >> Bruce,good to know. This is what I want to do.
>> >> I want to be able to record my vocal track over the backing track, but 
>> >> I
>> >> just can't get it to work.
>> >> I'm just wondering if it because my sound card is built in sound on 
>> >> the
>> >> mother board.
>> >>
>> >> Any help/tips to achieve this would be very helpful,
>> >> Billy
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> >> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:33 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> I use GW for everything from one-track production to mixing my radio
>> >>> shows
>> >>> together to recording my voice over a karaoke track.
>> >>>
>> >>> Bruce
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he 
>> >>> gave
>> >>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>> >>>
>> >>> Bruce Toews
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>> >>>
>> >>> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Sarah wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> I produce my one track podcasts with gw and love it! I just started
>> >>>> donig
>> >>>> this sometime last year.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sarah Alawami
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>> >>>> "Tell me what you think, Captain, I'm all ears" - Spock
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 11:28 AM
>> >>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Yes, I've heard a lot about Goldwave but never tried it yet, ah well
>> >>>> it won't do any harm to add it to the "editor collection". The Sound
>> >>>> Forge manual is a monster, when I last looked at it I think it was
>> >>>> about 400 pages or more, anyone digested each and every page of it
>> >>>> yet? I was considerably impressed with Wavepad too, been a while 
>> >>>> since
>> >>>> I looked at it but I don't think it was too badly priced either.
>> >>>> Audasity should be worthwile investigating too if features available
>> >>>> in 1.35 beta make it to the next official version.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 02/03/2008, at 5:00 AM, Larry N wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Hi Billy. Interesting question. I have 4 sound editors onboard.
>> >>>>> There's
>> >>>>> GoldWave, Sound Forge 8, DC 6 and WavePad. If you are asking about
>> >>>>> simple
>> >>>>> ease of use, accessibility and a manual that is easy to understand
>> >>>>> and set
>> >>>>> up in a way that can be accessed quickly, then GoldWave wins hands
>> >>>>> down.
>> >>>>> However, there are tasks that DC6 performs better than any piece of
>> >>>>> software
>> >>>>> that I've ever used. For instance, it has excellent hiss reduction 
>> >>>>> and
>> >>>>> comprehensive noise reduction. The down side is that its manual is
>> >>>>> difficult
>> >>>>> to use with speech.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> And Sound Forge? I truly feel that I get less out of it than I
>> >>>>> probably
>> >>>>> should, simply due to a lack of understanding. For instance, Sound
>> >>>>> Forge
>> >>>>> works with editable files which are made into and edited from what 
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> program calls regions. What is a region? I'm not exactly sure, nor
>> >>>>> am I
>> >>>>> certain how to go about creating one or editing the thing with
>> >>>>> keyboard
>> >>>>> alone. Perhaps it is my own inability to understand, but none of 
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> Sound
>> >>>>> Forge faithful have been able to show me why this program is worth
>> >>>>> its hefty
>> >>>>> price tag. I would still love to know how to take a recorded file,
>> >>>>> such as
>> >>>>> that generated by a vinyl LP and edit out pops clicks and 
>> >>>>> extraneous
>> >>>>> noise,
>> >>>>> then burn it onto a CD using Sound Forge only. Others in this group
>> >>>>> can do
>> >>>>> so, however I have not succeeded as yet.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Meanwhile, with the exception of actually burning the CD, I can 
>> >>>>> edit a
>> >>>>> project from start to finish using either GoldWave or DC6,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> To be entirely fair, I can perform some tasks more quickly while
>> >>>>> using Sound
>> >>>>> Forge. It's equalizer is superior. Its general audio restoration
>> >>>>> feature
>> >>>>> works quickly and for the most part reliably when applied to an
>> >>>>> entire file.
>> >>>>> But I don't find the manual easy to use, so I'm sure I'm not 
>> >>>>> getting
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> most from the program.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> As for WavePad, that hasn't been discussed much here. I own a copy,
>> >>>>> but to
>> >>>>> be honest, I haven't played with it a great deal as yet.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Others will have their own ideas, but if I were buying my first
>> >>>>> audio editor
>> >>>>> which could take me far beyond the beginner stage, I would choose
>> >>>>> GoldWave.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Hope this helps you in some small way.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Larry
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> >>>>> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 6:02 AM
>> >>>>> Subject: sound editing?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> hi guys,
>> >>>>>> what is the best sound editing software on the market today?.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> What is the basic differences between Gold Wave & SoundForge?,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> What are the latest versions of both pieces of software, and which
>> >>>>>> is more
>> >>>>>> speech friendly?,
>> >>>>>> Billy
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