High Bruce,
I don't mean to get off topic here, but do you or anyone on this list know 
about an audio editor called DC6?
I'm asking because I am wondering how user friendly it mite be with Jaws and 
other screen readers.
There is a newer virgin of it out called DC-7.
I am also wondering about this one too as well.
Thanks in advance.
  John.
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From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: sound editing?


> Since he's doing mostly online streaming nowadays, it's not too off-topic.
> www.drdemento.com.
>
> bruce
>
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> On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, Mac Norins wrote:
>
>> Bruce,
>>
>> Not to get too off topic here, but, what is Doctor Demento's web address?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Mac-
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>
>>
>> LOL The song wasn't based on any real-life experiences, I just wanted to
>> see if I could wail as mornfuly as Tom Jones.
>>
>> Bruce
>> On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 15:00:13 -0600, "Curtis Delzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> said:
>>> Oh, my, my, my! recliner! Funny!
>>> after he fixed it with glue, you bought a new, recliner? what happened 
>>> to
>>> the fixed one? <grin>
>>>
>>> Curtis Delzer
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audo Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:44 PM
>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>
>>>
>>> Precisely. If you want to hear a sample of me doing this, this got 
>>> played
>>> on the Dr. Demento Show:
>>>
>>> http://www.ogts.net/music/recliner.mp3
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>> --
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>>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Doc wrote:
>>>
>>>> Once you start the recording in goldwave there would be no need to
>>>> return
>>>> to
>>>> it until you are ready to stop the recording.  Note: If during your
>>>> singing
>>>> you make a mistake I would suggest starting over the playback don't
>>>> worry
>>>> about the recording because you can always edit out the errors. Just
>>>> keep
>>>> singing until you get it like you want.
>>>>
>>>> ******************************
>>>> Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> robert Doc Wright
>>>> http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
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>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:43 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can
>>>>> play
>>>>> the
>>>>> backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you are
>>>>> in
>>>>> goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into
>>>>> winamp,
>>>>> and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and start
>>>>> singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
>>>>> Sorry about this,
>>>>> Billy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
>>>>>> Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
>>>>>> vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal,
>>>>>> since
>>>>>> it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. 
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
>>>>>> mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
>>>>>> can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
>>>>>> thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
>>>>>> you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
>>>>>> effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background
>>>>>> music
>>>>>> as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -0000, "TrueBlue & Proud"
>>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>>>>>> Bruce,
>>>>>>> can you please explain how you achieved this?.
>>>>>>> Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go into
>>>>>>> goldwave
>>>>>>> and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
>>>>>>> If they are playing separately, then how can you record the finished
>>>>>>> project?.
>>>>>>> Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something here,
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> possible,
>>>>>>> Billy,
>>>>>>> Dinky Doo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:38 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I recorded the vocal track separately with Winamp playing the music
>>>>>>>> track
>>>>>>>> in the background, then I mixed the two togetehr using Gold Wave.
>>>>>>>> There
>>>>>>>> are other ways to do it, this is my prefered way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>>>>>>>> gave
>>>>>>>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bruce Toews
>>>>>>>> Skype ID: o.canada
>>>>>>>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
>>>>>>>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
>>>>>>>> http://www.ogts.net
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bruce,good to know. This is what I want to do.
>>>>>>>>> I want to be able to record my vocal track over the backing track,
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> just can't get it to work.
>>>>>>>>> I'm just wondering if it because my sound card is built in sound 
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> mother board.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any help/tips to achieve this would be very helpful,
>>>>>>>>> Billy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:33 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I use GW for everything from one-track production to mixing my
>>>>>>>>>> radio
>>>>>>>>>> shows
>>>>>>>>>> together to recording my voice over a karaoke track.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, 
>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>> gave
>>>>>>>>>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bruce Toews
>>>>>>>>>> Skype ID: o.canada
>>>>>>>>>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
>>>>>>>>>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.ogts.net
>>>>>>>>>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Sarah wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I produce my one track podcasts with gw and love it! I just
>>>>>>>>>>> started
>>>>>>>>>>> donig
>>>>>>>>>>> this sometime last year.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sarah Alawami
>>>>>>>>>>> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>>> skype: marrie1
>>>>>>>>>>> Website;
>>>>>>>>>>> www.marrie.org
>>>>>>>>>>> To check out my podcast go to
>>>>>>>>>>> http://feeds.feedburner.com/funfilled
>>>>>>>>>>> For information on the list where you can discuss the podcast
>>>>>>>>>>> check
>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>> http://tffp.marrie.org/mailman/listinfo/tffpdiscussionlist_tffp.marrie.org
>>>>>>>>>>> "Tell me what you think, Captain, I'm all ears" - Spock
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 11:28 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I've heard a lot about Goldwave but never tried it yet, ah
>>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>> it won't do any harm to add it to the "editor collection". The
>>>>>>>>>>> Sound
>>>>>>>>>>> Forge manual is a monster, when I last looked at it I think it
>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>> about 400 pages or more, anyone digested each and every page of
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> yet? I was considerably impressed with Wavepad too, been a while
>>>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>>>> I looked at it but I don't think it was too badly priced either.
>>>>>>>>>>> Audasity should be worthwile investigating too if features
>>>>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>>>> in 1.35 beta make it to the next official version.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 02/03/2008, at 5:00 AM, Larry N wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Billy. Interesting question. I have 4 sound editors onboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>> There's
>>>>>>>>>>>> GoldWave, Sound Forge 8, DC 6 and WavePad. If you are asking
>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>> simple
>>>>>>>>>>>> ease of use, accessibility and a manual that is easy to
>>>>>>>>>>>> understand
>>>>>>>>>>>> and set
>>>>>>>>>>>> up in a way that can be accessed quickly, then GoldWave wins
>>>>>>>>>>>> hands
>>>>>>>>>>>> down.
>>>>>>>>>>>> However, there are tasks that DC6 performs better than any 
>>>>>>>>>>>> piece
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>>>>>>> that I've ever used. For instance, it has excellent hiss
>>>>>>>>>>>> reduction
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> comprehensive noise reduction. The down side is that its manual
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> difficult
>>>>>>>>>>>> to use with speech.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And Sound Forge? I truly feel that I get less out of it than I
>>>>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>>>>>>> should, simply due to a lack of understanding. For instance,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sound
>>>>>>>>>>>> Forge
>>>>>>>>>>>> works with editable files which are made into and edited from
>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> program calls regions. What is a region? I'm not exactly sure,
>>>>>>>>>>>> nor
>>>>>>>>>>>> am I
>>>>>>>>>>>> certain how to go about creating one or editing the thing with
>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard
>>>>>>>>>>>> alone. Perhaps it is my own inability to understand, but none 
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sound
>>>>>>>>>>>> Forge faithful have been able to show me why this program is
>>>>>>>>>>>> worth
>>>>>>>>>>>> its hefty
>>>>>>>>>>>> price tag. I would still love to know how to take a recorded
>>>>>>>>>>>> file,
>>>>>>>>>>>> such as
>>>>>>>>>>>> that generated by a vinyl LP and edit out pops clicks and
>>>>>>>>>>>> extraneous
>>>>>>>>>>>> noise,
>>>>>>>>>>>> then burn it onto a CD using Sound Forge only. Others in this
>>>>>>>>>>>> group
>>>>>>>>>>>> can do
>>>>>>>>>>>> so, however I have not succeeded as yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, with the exception of actually burning the CD, I can
>>>>>>>>>>>> edit a
>>>>>>>>>>>> project from start to finish using either GoldWave or DC6,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To be entirely fair, I can perform some tasks more quickly 
>>>>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>>>>> using Sound
>>>>>>>>>>>> Forge. It's equalizer is superior. Its general audio 
>>>>>>>>>>>> restoration
>>>>>>>>>>>> feature
>>>>>>>>>>>> works quickly and for the most part reliably when applied to an
>>>>>>>>>>>> entire file.
>>>>>>>>>>>> But I don't find the manual easy to use, so I'm sure I'm not
>>>>>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> most from the program.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As for WavePad, that hasn't been discussed much here. I own a
>>>>>>>>>>>> copy,
>>>>>>>>>>>> but to
>>>>>>>>>>>> be honest, I haven't played with it a great deal as yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Others will have their own ideas, but if I were buying my first
>>>>>>>>>>>> audio editor
>>>>>>>>>>>> which could take me far beyond the beginner stage, I would
>>>>>>>>>>>> choose
>>>>>>>>>>>> GoldWave.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps you in some small way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 6:02 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: sound editing?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is the best sound editing software on the market today?.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is the basic differences between Gold Wave & SoundForge?,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are the latest versions of both pieces of software, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> speech friendly?,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Billy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Billy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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