very informative Curtis. I am going to share this with some students this year for a project we are working on regarding these very issues. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curtis Delzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:39 PM Subject: Re: How to get the most material onto a standard cdUsingGoldwave and premier cd creator.
> Hey, I just hope it helps! Having done several cassettes onto the > computer, what is fun is making tracks for different things on the > cassettes, because on a cassette the operator has to rewind or fast > forward the tape to sections, where if you're doing an audio cd you > can make tracks for not only sides of the cassette, but for changes > in locale, activity, whatever. :) > > Curtis Delzer > > At 11:29 AM 8/13/2008, you wrote: >>Hi, >>Thank you for the explanation. >>Vinny >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Curtis Delzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 9:10 AM >>Subject: Re: How to get the most material onto a standard cd UsingGoldwave >>and premier cd creator. >> >> >> > Whatever you use, Gold Wave, Sound Forge, Studio Recorder, a CD can >> > hold up to 80 minutes of data, audio data, which equals about 703 >> > megabytes, so if your cassettes are, as you say, 72 minutes in >> > length, it should work fine, since you'll have 7 plus minutes left >> > over. If you wish to put analog audio on a cd, you won't make it any >> > format before recording except *.wav since you'll tell the cd burning >> > package you use to make the audio for you. (Nero, easy_CDA_creator, >> > Roxio, premier cd Creator, (whatever)), make them into just straight >> > audio sound which a normal cd player handles. If you put *.mp3 files >> > or any compressed format as data onto a cd, the cds will handle a >> > great deal more subjective time of 80 minutes, ten times that easily, >> > but a specialized cd player will be needed to play them which are, as >> > you know, readily available. >> > Gold wave makes the *.wav files, I'd suggest one per track of the >> > newly created cd, and then you can either make GoldWave burn the cd, >> > or another package which specialty is, burning audio cds, including >> > one I use called "Acoustica cd burner," or Nero. Changing the >> > sampling rate from 16Bit to 24Bit will not change a length or make it >> > possible to fit more, it will not do anything to the already recorded >> > audio. >> > Newly recorded audio, meaning not a copy of a cassette, certainly, >> > the higher sampling rates take up more room, not less, 8Khz, 16Khz, >> > 24Khz, 32Khz, etc but you're making a copy, not a new recording. >> > "Sampling rate," is a quality capability, not a compression or "fit >> > more" capability into a space, that is when making mp3s at different >> > rates of compression, e.g. 32K 40K 64K 128K 256K etc. Higher >> > "compression" rates of 32K compared to 256K take up less room, but >> > the K, mentioned here, is a different standard of handling audio than >> > the K mentioned in "sampling" rate. >> > I hope this gives you a glimmering. What you can do is this; after >> > the recording onto cds is done, you can save all tracks on your >> > computer, later, as *.mp3 or *.ogg or ... there are many possible >> > compress formats, and if not in stereo, you can save them in mono at >> > 64K bit rate, and will have no degradation, since cassettes will not >> > go as high as 16Khz on the high end anyway unless there is >> > specialized recording methods taken and the material contains a lot >> > of 16Khz energy which is extremely unlikely considering the sources >> > you're talking about. You can then make, if needed, more copies of >> > the material onto straight audio cds, using one of the above >> > mentioned packages, who will convert, on the fly, most compressed >> > formats right back into audio format for you. When recording, since >> > these are kids in different circumstances of excitement, play, calm, >> > etc. you will probably also wish to make sure clipping does not >> > happen, so record at a relatively low level, and then normalize >> > afterwards so the computer can handle the optimal level for you after >> > the initial recording is done. >> > >> > Curtis Delzer >> > >> > At 08:13 AM 8/13/2008, you wrote: >> >>Hi, >> >> I have never done the following proceedure before, and could use >> >>suggestions. I have been asked to copy quite a number of cassettes of >> >>greatly varying lengths to be preserved onto cds. These cassettes are >> >>old >> >>family cassettes of kids singing and talking etc. Because the amount >> >>of >> >>material on each cassette varies from 7 minutes, to at least 30 >> >>minutes, I >> >>want to copy them consecutively. I will be using Goldwave. These cds >> >>should be able to be played on any cd player, so not an mp3 formate for >> >>now. >> >> So, if I change the byt rate, from 16 to 24, can I squeze more >> >> onto a >> >>cd? With premier cd Creator, when I put a new cd into the computer, it >> >>will >> >>tell me I have 703 megabytes free. I have been able to put about 72 >> >>minutes >> >>of material onto a cassette. Is there any way I could squeze a few >> >>minutes >> >>more onto each cd without having to go to mp3 format? 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