They were purchased by someone else who may have a more restrictive policy.
----- Original Message ----- From: "André van Deventer" <andred...@webafrica.org.za>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 12:27 PM
Subject: RE: iTunes [was "RE: ipod touch"]


And yet a company like e-music who has always been open for anyone without
any kind of restrictions placed on people from other countries will now no
longer allow people from other countries to join it.  They have never had
any DRM restrictions on their music.



-----Original Message-----
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 20 September 2009 07:10 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: iTunes [was "RE: ipod touch"]

I am all for acquiring music and other files legally, but I don't have a
strong opinion on DRM, other than I do resent it when DRM technologies
prevents me from practicing my fair use rights. It hasn't effected me too
much yet though. I use things like Rockbox on my portable media player and
Sound taxi to copy media over to my portable media player for my own
personal use. Amazon.com offers music in the MP3 format with no DRM, and as
others have said, Apple and others are getting away from DRM.

BTW, I use Winamp to manage my podcasts, and I haven't found a podcast that I can't get to with Winamp, although I do know people who haven't been able to subscribe to podcasts their interested in without going through iTunes. I
suspect that once you get used to iTunes, it provides a pretty easy and
efficient way to manage your podcasts. I know quite a few sites have buttons
you can click to add their podcasts to your iTunes subscriptions.

I appreciate the work Apple has done on accessibility, and I understand that
accessibility may not keep a company from being first to market with a new
technology, but I kind of wonder what was so urgent in an update like iTunes
9 that kept them from getting the accessibility of the iTunes store right
before they released iTunes 9.

--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com




-----Original Message-----
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Ray
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 10:44 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: iTunes [was "RE: ipod touch"]

thanks Christopher.  I simply haven't caught onto the ITunes way of buying
music or acquiring podcasts so hardly surprising I'm in the dark as to what
the big deal is.

If DRM is being dispenceddispensed with I may well get an interest in all of
this, but I nvernever have gone in for music sharing and the like so the
IPod has passed me by, sad person that I am.

Apple would be winning more interest and support were it to get
accessability right from the start.  Hard to believe it would old up
progress on all the other new must have stuff.

Ray

Christopher Chaltain wrote:
I think iTunes has several purposes. First, it drives traffic to the iTunes Store. Second, it is needed to transfer content to your iPod, although other
applications, such as Winamp,  have been allowed to do this lately. Third,
it provides an easy way to tab and manage podcasts. In other words, it isn't
too different from similar applications out there that allow you to play
your multimedia content, manage your multimedia library, manage the media on
your mobile devices and interact with a storefront offering free and paid
content. Winamp, windows Media Player, Zune, Rhapsody and so on all provide
similar function.

I'm not an iTunes user, but I was disappointed to see the accessibility
problems with iTunes 9. According to a post I saw earlier, fixing the iTunes
Store in iTunes 9 will require an update for iTunes and Window-Eyes. I
haven't heard what's required for JFW and Screen Access. I'm glad Apple is
working with the screen reader venders to get this fixed, but given how much Apple has done with accessibility lately, it would be nice if accessibility were part of their day zero release. I'm not sure what features there are in iTunes 9 that would have them rush it out without getting the accessibility
right.


--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Ray

Lynn and all, just to show my ignorance on all things ITunes, but what's the
purpose of ITunes these days if Apple has abandoned DRM?  I thought the
reason for it's existence was to handle DRM as much as anything else.

As for the JFW question, it's only a matter of time before JAWS will work
with the latest ITunes and GW Micro says it is working with Apple to sort
out the ITunes store issues in version 9 of the software. this is bound to benefit JFW users and others too. System Access claims to work with ITunes
9 propperly, or at least better, right now.
Ray.




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