High Garry,
You are correct, that is a power tube.
The 6P19 tube was also used as a receiver to the picture tube in small black and white television sets in the 1950's through the mid 1960's.
A Russian company called Sovtek, makes the 6C19PI tube.
But that is a totally different circuit altogether.
The 6C19PI is actually 2 tubes inside of 1 bottle.
It is a pentode and a triode altogether in 1 bottle like I said above.
The 6P19 which use to be made by RCA GE and Sylvania, is a pentode.
But I think it is backwards compatible with the 6BQ5 tube.
Which is being called, the EL84 tube today.
Did you say 50 cents a tube?
I used to get those little tubes for a quarter a peace and those big tubes all depending on which power tube, for a half dollar a peace.
But this was back in the mid to late 70's.
My best regards.
 John.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Schindler" <garys5...@comcast.net>
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that is exactly what I would do. google for a company that sells used replacement tubes and you might get lucky to find the 6P19 tubes somewhere. I think that is a power tube. at the time I could buy replacement tubes for fifty cents a piece. that was a long time ago. good luck with the tube search.

----- Original Message ----- From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <djdoct...@att.net>
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Hello Garry,
I still have a copal of those old talking book record players.
I could get them to work if only I could find replacement tubes for the 6P19 tubes.
Those amplifiers in those old machines, are push-pull.
You have 6 tubes in the amplifier altogether.
2 12EF7 tubes 2 12AX7 tubes and 2 6P19 tubes.
The 6P19 tube isn't being made any more.
That tube was taken out of production in 1979.
But I think I can rewire the sockets to run the EL84 tubes.
I will just have to do some home work on it.
If I can do that and get away with it, I will just convert the machines to stand alone turntables and put stereo cartridges in both of them.
It would sound really sweet I bet.
My best regards.
 John.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Schindler" <garys5...@comcast.net>
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those adapters were no fun, we used to use a lathe and what ever materials we had on hand to make caps that would fit over the drive motor. this would include dialing, plastic, fiberglass, pen caps, metal tubing, etc.

when schools and blind associations got rid of the tube models, a bunch of us had lots of parts to interchange.

many of the amplifiers became part of a makeshift stereo.

the transistor models weren't good for much other than playing talking books.

----- Original Message ----- From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <djdoct...@att.net>
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Hello Garry and all others,
In the early 1960's, they introduced transistor record players that had a verriple speed control knob on them. If you sat the mane speed lever to 33 and a third, all you had to do was turn that knob up as high as it would go.
It would play 78 records at that setting.
Slow it down to 16, it would play 45 records.
As for that diamond head needle, there were a few commercial record players that used them
Record players that went as far back as the mid 1930's up to 1989.
They are still sailing these old machines on eBay.
My best regards.
 John.
PS. They were used allot in public schools.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Schindler" <garys5...@comcast.net>
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that is why people like me made adapters for 45 rpm records who wanted them.

----- Original Message ----- From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <djdoct...@att.net>
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Hello Tom,
Lock me up and throw away the key!
When I was only 10 years of age, I received a talking book record player and a C-77 talking book cassette player. I was told that you couldn't play music tapes and records on those machines.
But I got away with doing that with both of them.
The only thing with the record player, you couldn't play 45 and or 78 records on them because there wasn't any speed positions for those 2 speeds. But you were able to play 33 and a third record LP's without any problems at all!
And I did, and enjoyed it too!
So again, lock me up and throw away the key!
My best regards.
 John.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Kaufman" <tomca...@comcast.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:30 AM
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I would imagine that if you speak with someone from a library, they're naturally gonna tell you that you can't play anything on these players but books; it's like (in the old days)..folks would sometimes say you weren't supposed to play anything but talking book records on the old talking book players! I've never really heard a definitive answer for that one; all I know is: people used to do it all the time (played their records on the talking book machines)..now it might be a thing where..the needles were bigger..and the grooves in the old talking book records were bigger; I don't know for sure..but oh yeah..playing record albums on talking book machines was a practice that people did a lot! But I'm fairly certain that..if one had talked with their librarian..I'm sure they would have said "Oh no; you're not supposed to play records on these machines!"
Tom Kaufman

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