on the subject of mixers/vacume tubes and the like has anyone here ever heard of a valve eq? ----- Original Message ----- From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <djdoct...@att.net> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 2:11 PM Subject: Re: Best portable mike mixer out there?
What a Shame to have to get red of it. But I guess you done what you had to do. My best regards. John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Schindler" <garys5...@comcast.net> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 2:26 AM Subject: Re: Best portable mike mixer out there? > it was 100 watts, and I moved and didn't have the room. I downsized from a > big house now to a smaller one and don't have the room for bulky > equipment. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <djdoct...@att.net> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 9:13 PM > Subject: Re: Best portable mike mixer out there? > > >> High Garry, >> Why did you get red of them? >> How much power did they put out? >> John. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gary Schindler" <garys5...@comcast.net> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 9:05 PM >> Subject: Re: Best portable mike mixer out there? >> >> >>> that is a good clean power mixer. >>> >>> one of my favorite power amplifiers I had was made by Hauffman. it used >>> match 12-AU-7. I could kick myself for getting rid of it. it had a >>> couple of electrolytic caps go bad, but it was easy enough to take care >>> of. that thing could kick but. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <djdoct...@att.net> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 8:38 PM >>> Subject: Re: Best portable mike mixer out there? >>> >>> >>>> High Garry, >>>> Those were the mixers that had built in power amps in them. >>>> There were some mixers that were only preamps, no power amps on board >>>> at all! >>>> But you had to have a really good power amp like the Bogen DS-265. >>>> Or else, the RCA Victor DB-2130. >>>> I have both of those amps. >>>> I also have an RCA Victor stereo powered mixer that puts out 150 watts >>>> per channel. >>>> That one came out of an old church. >>>> They were going to throw it out because it didn't work anymore. >>>> I asked the pastor of that church what was wrong with it. >>>> He told me, it just didn't work anymore. >>>> I asked him if I could take it home with me, I mite be able to get it >>>> to work again. >>>> He said, sure, if you want it, then take it. >>>> The only thing that I found wrong with it was, all 8 of the 6550 tubes >>>> were burned out. >>>> And some resisters and caps needed to be replaced. >>>> Once I done that, it was like a new one all over again. >>>> I still use it every now and then. >>>> The record out jacks on that mixer, are connected to a pare of ECC82 >>>> tubes. >>>> That really sweetens my recordings! >>>> My best regards. >>>> John. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Gary G Schindler" <garys5...@comcast.net> >>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:13 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Best portable mike mixer out there? >>>> >>>> >>>>>I was going to tell you the same thing, portable yesterday and today >>>>>are two different things. I used to have some Bogan and Duquesne mixers >>>>>that were the size of portable televisions, and they were mono. they >>>>>were 90 watts. I don't think the young lady wants to tote anything like >>>>>that. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <djdoct...@att.net> >>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 2:25 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Best portable mike mixer out there? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> High Garry, >>>>>> That is not really true. >>>>>> In the 1950's and 60's, some of them had to be portable. >>>>>> Sometimes, a PA system had to be sat up to address a small gathering >>>>>> of people. >>>>>> Like for instants, in schools sometimes in the class rooms. >>>>>> And also, some radio stations had to use them for remote >>>>>> broadcasting. >>>>>> But the amplifiers in them, put out no more then 20 to 70 watts of >>>>>> power. >>>>>> But that was just the mono mottles. >>>>>> The stereo mottles, had jacks on them that allowed you to hook up >>>>>> turntables and open real tape recorders. >>>>>> They put out a minimum of 70 to a maximum of 100 watts per channel. >>>>>> So you see, they had to be portable so that they could be carried >>>>>> from one place to another. >>>>>> However, the higher powered ones, weren't light wait. >>>>>> And the kinds of tubes that they used were either 7581's or 6550's. >>>>>> Some of them, used either 6P35's or 6CA7's. >>>>>> These were the kinds of power tubes they used. >>>>>> They all used either ECC83's or 12AX7's for preamp tubes. >>>>>> Some of them, used tubes like the 6DJ8 which is being called, the >>>>>> 6922 tube today. >>>>>> They also used the ECC99 which is being called, the 12BF7 tube today. >>>>>> There were some which are now being dubbed as odd tubes today being >>>>>> used in the preamps of those mixers. >>>>>> Tubes like the 6AU6 which is not being made anymore, and the EF86 >>>>>> tube. >>>>>> Personally, I don't see how could some of those PA systems could be >>>>>> called portable. >>>>>> I say this because, some of them are as big as 19 to 25 inch TV sets. >>>>>> My best regards. >>>>>> John. >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Gary Schindler" <garys5...@comcast.net> >>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 3:29 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Best portable mike mixer out there? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>I agree with you. usually solid state mixers sound cold compared to >>>>>>>the tube predecessors. if you had a vacuum tube mixer it wouldn't be >>>>>>>portable anyway. >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <djdoct...@att.net> >>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 9:56 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Best portable mike mixer out there? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> High Garry, >>>>>>>> I've been fooling around with audio equipment since I was 5 years >>>>>>>> old. >>>>>>>> I've seen and heard it all. >>>>>>>> Nothing sounds like a vacuum tube except a real live vacuum tube. >>>>>>>> The simulators don't come close to it. >>>>>>>> My best regards. >>>>>>>> John. >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Gary Schindler" <garys5...@comcast.net> >>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 7:23 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Best portable mike mixer out there? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> not for that price, they just simulate the British EQ effects. I >>>>>>>>> personally would opt for the optional battery powered one. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <djdoct...@att.net> >>>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 7:09 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Best portable mike mixer out there? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> High Tom, >>>>>>>>>> Are you saying, some of these mixers have vacuum tubes in them? >>>>>>>>>> John. >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>> From: "Tom" <t...@pc-audio.org> >>>>>>>>>> To: <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 4:42 PM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Best portable mike mixer out there? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Kathy, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Here's a few mixers that might meet your needs. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Behringer XENYX-502 >>>>>>>>>> 5 Input 2 Bus Mixer w/EQ >>>>>>>>>> Behringer XENYX-502 5 Input 2 Bus Mixer w/EQ >>>>>>>>>> Small, Affordable and Great Sounding! The new 2-Bus XENYX 502 >>>>>>>>>> has 5 inputs and main mix, stereo CD/tape plus separate >>>>>>>>>> headphone outputs, and boasts the new XENYX Mic Preamp, which >>>>>>>>>> matches the sound quality, transparency, headroom and dynamic >>>>>>>>>> range of a boutique-styled, standalone mic preamp. Featuring >>>>>>>>>> a neo-classic "British-Style" 2- band EQ, which gives the >>>>>>>>>> warmth and musicality of those '60s and '70s mega-console >>>>>>>>>> desks, the XENYX 502 offers assignable CD/tape inputs for >>>>>>>>>> routing flexibility, and comes in an ultra low-noise, high >>>>>>>>>> headroom design. >>>>>>>>>> Main Features: >>>>>>>>>> . Premium ultra low-noise, high headroom analog mixer >>>>>>>>>> . State-of-the-art XENYX Mic Preamp comparable to stand-alone >>>>>>>>>> boutique preamps (no 48V phantom power on the XENYX 502) >>>>>>>>>> . Neo-classic "British" 2-band EQ for warm and musical sound >>>>>>>>>> . Main mix, stereo CD/tape plus separate headphone outputs >>>>>>>>>> . CD/tape inputs assignable to headphone output or main mix >>>>>>>>>> outputs >>>>>>>>>> . High-quality components and exceptionally rugged >>>>>>>>>> construction ensure long life >>>>>>>>>> $44.99 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Behringer XENYX-802 >>>>>>>>>> 8 Input 2 Bus Mixer w/EQ >>>>>>>>>> Behringer XENYX-802 8 Input 2 Bus Mixer w/EQ >>>>>>>>>> Small, Affordable and Great Sounding! The new 2-Bus XENYX 802 >>>>>>>>>> has 8 inputs and an FX Send control for each channel, and >>>>>>>>>> boasts 2 XENYX Mic Preamps, which match the sound quality, >>>>>>>>>> transparency, headroom and dynamic range of boutique-styled, >>>>>>>>>> standalone mic preamps. Featuring a neo-classic >>>>>>>>>> "British-Style" 3- band EQ, which gives the warmth and >>>>>>>>>> musicality of those '60s and '70s mega-console desks, the >>>>>>>>>> XENYX 802 offers assignable CD/tape inputs for routing >>>>>>>>>> flexibility, and comes in an ultra low-noise, high headroom >>>>>>>>>> design. >>>>>>>>>> Main Features: . Premium ultra low-noise, high headroom >>>>>>>>>> analog mixer . 2 state-of-the-art XENYX Mic Preamps >>>>>>>>>> comparable to stand-alone boutique preamps; 48V phantom power >>>>>>>>>> . Neo-classic "British" 3-band EQs for warm and musical sound >>>>>>>>>> . 1 post fader FX send per channel for external FX devices . >>>>>>>>>> 1 stereo aux return for FX applications or as separate stereo >>>>>>>>>> input . Main mix outputs plus separate control room, phones >>>>>>>>>> and stereo CD/tape outputs . CD/tape inputs assignable to >>>>>>>>>> main mix or control room/phones outputs . High-quality >>>>>>>>>> components and exceptionally rugged construction ensure long >>>>>>>>>> life. >>>>>>>>>> $59.99 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Behringer XENYX-1002B >>>>>>>>>> 10-Input 2-Bus Mixer with XENYX Preamps and Optional Battery >>>>>>>>>> Operation >>>>>>>>>> Behringer XENYX-1002B 10-Input 2-Bus Mixer with XENYX Preamps >>>>>>>>>> and Optional Battery Operation >>>>>>>>>> The Behringer XENYX 1002B is a 10-Input 2-bus mixer offering >>>>>>>>>> two high quality XENYX mic preamps, "British" 3-band EQs for >>>>>>>>>> classic, warm sound and optional battery operation. Behringer >>>>>>>>>> XENYX 1002B Features: . Premium ultra-low noise analog mixer >>>>>>>>>> with optional battery operation . 2 state-of-the-art XENYX >>>>>>>>>> Mic Preamps comparable to stand-alone boutique preamps . >>>>>>>>>> Neo-classic ''British'' 3-band EQs for warm and musical sound >>>>>>>>>> . 4 balanced, high-headroom stereo inputs with 3 additional >>>>>>>>>> mic inputs . One post-fader FX send and one pre-fader MON >>>>>>>>>> send per channel for external FX devices and monitor >>>>>>>>>> applications . Clip LEDs on all channels and dedicated >>>>>>>>>> inserts on all mono channels . Main output plus separate >>>>>>>>>> Phones and CD/Tape outputs . Switchable phantom power for >>>>>>>>>> condenser microphones . Long-wearing 60-mm logarithmic-taper >>>>>>>>>> master fader and sealed rotary controls . External power >>>>>>>>>> supply for noise-free audio and superior transient response . >>>>>>>>>> High-quality components and exceptionally rugged construction >>>>>>>>>> . Conceived and designed by BEHRINGER Germany >>>>>>>>>> $99.99 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Message From: Kathy Szinnyey ** >>>>>>>>>> >Hey, guys and gals! I'm looking for a not terribly >>>>>>>>>> >sophisticated mike mixer that is small that I >>>>>>>>>> can take on the >>>>>>>>>> >road with my Netbook. 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