The JAWS list I subscribe to generates about twice as many messages as this list does. Do you want to plow through three times as many messages as we now get on this list? Screenreaders are essential to blind people, but do you really want to stretch the subject matter of this list to everything that involves our ears? Shall we have a long thread on why beeping traffic signals are a good or bad idea? Shall we debate the merits of different kinds of music? Fortunately, for the screenreader questions you and I both need answers to, there are JAWS, WindowEyes and other screenreader lists. The way Tom has focused this list, it ensures we get the sophisticated advice on computer audio matters that you and many others have contributed over the years.
-----Original Message----- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 1:27 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Off topic posts [was "RE: internet 8"] Hello, I am gonna way in on this subject for what it's worth. When you shut down blind people in this manner, you are in a way insulting them. Just as what was said in an earlier post, sighted people assess information on their computers by what they see. Us blind people, don't have a choice but to assess information by reading brail or by listening to it. In the latter case, our ears are our eyes. If you take away a blind person's ability to hear, you take away his/her ability to see. That's what screen readers do for us. This is my opinion for what it's worth, but in order for this list to be a true PC AUDIO list, you need to broaden your view of things because your views are a little too narrow. John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 11:13 PM Subject: RE: Off topic posts [was "RE: internet 8"] This is good advice; Tom would make his life easier by identifying himself as the moderator when making these decisions. Because he hasn't checked in since this post, I'll confirm that he is the moderator. There isn't a better one out there. For what it's worth, I agree that a question about how JAWS works with IE8 isn't right for this list. The answer, as implied by another lister and that would be given more appropriately on a JAWS list, is that this particular error message in IE8 indicates that the user needs to upgrade JAWS. -----Original Message----- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 9:00 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: Off topic posts [was "RE: internet 8"] Are you the moderator of the list Tom, and if so, were you speaking as the moderator? If that's the case, then I'd suggest you identify yourself as such when making such a statement. Otherwise, you might just be taken as a moderator want to be and either ignored or criticized. That's just my advice. BTW, I agree that the post in question was off topic, and I don't have any problem with you pointing that out. As you know though, PC audio is a pretty pervasive topic, so I think a lot of leniency is called for on such a list, and in general, I think it's been a pretty lenient list. I don't have a lot of patience though for people who think absolutely everything is fair game for this list just because I use a screen reader which happens to use my sound card. Ditto for people who won't submit to moderation. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 5:42 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Re: internet 8 The subject is related to Internet Explorer and a screen reader. Internet Explorer is an Internet browser and not a piece of audio software. Tom ** Message From: Johnny Angel! ** Dear Tom, I respectfully disagree with you. If Sam is hearing something and talks about what he is hearing, is it then not related to something audio? To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
