Hello Brett and list: I'm sure that Foobar is a fine program; all I really
was meaning to say was: at this time, I don't know that I have a need for
anything other than what I'm already using (Winamp) if I used a program to
create playlists and such (from what you are saying) Foobar might be a
better one than Winamp; it's something that (now that my curiosity has been
somewhat aroused) I might look at it, just to see what it does!
Tom Kaufman
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brett Boyer" <bboyer...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes
Hey all. Tom I appreciate where you're coming from. However a few years
ago I got fed up with winamp adding more stuff that I didn't need. It was
becoming bulkier than I wanted and so I went snooping around for other
alternatives. I will give you one main advantage foobar has over the
competition. Multiple playlists. That's right something you thought you
didn't need or at least I thought I didn't need until I realized how
wonderful it was. With this tiny little player that is as customizable as
you can get. I can now have my audio books, TV shows, music, and whatever
all in the same window. I don't have to keep opening new playlists and
reloading files.
And one more great thing about Foobar, that I just rediscovered, is
tagging. Since my music library is a total mess. (I do mean a total mess)
I knew it was time to retag everything from album names to genre (don't
get me started on genres) Foobar has a beautiful interface for tagging
files and / or folders.
Maybe I should do a podcast on it because I'm so thrilled how great it is.
I've been looking for an idea for a podcast anyway. But suffice it to say
I think a lot of people are scared to go outside the box and blind people
more so than sighted folks.
Let's face it, if I didn't go outside the box I never would have
discovered programs like Foobar about 3 years ago.
I understand the fear of trying something new especially when screen
access software is picky and you never know what you're going to get.
I recently read an article on a program called Songsmith. It's one of
these program that can help you create music by making a few selections
and just singing in to your microphone. I found it, downloaded, and
couldn't do a thing with it. But at least I tried and I'm still checking
it out with all of the screen readers I have. (btw no luck so far)
Ok sorry for the long post I usually don't have this much to say, but
James had such a great message I felt empowered!!!
thanks
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Kaufman" <tomca...@comcast.net>
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Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes
Okay; Foobar, Foover. whatever; all I was attempting to ask is: what
makes it a better "player (audio player, media player..whatever!
Tom Kaufman
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From: "James Scholes" <ja...@jls-radio.com>
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Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes
Your attention to detail (i.e. spelling Foobar with a V) would suggest
that you have not considered the very real possibility that Foobar may
contain features that, up-to-now, you have not considered you even
needed, nor have you considered that Foobar2000 is an audio player, not
a media player. The emphasis is on audio playback, and this appeals to
some folks.
I'll admit that I switched to Foobar2000 from WinAmp about 2 and a half
years ago, and haven't looked back. But I'm not here to advocate for
its usage, nor to outline in great detail what it is about Foobar that
makes me prefer it over WinAmp. That is for you to decide, and until
you have tried the product (which is free and does not conflict with an
existing WinAmp installation) or at the very least studied the list of
features and extra plug-ins available, you are not qualified to take the
narrow-minded view that "if something ain't broke, don't fix it". There
is *always* room for improvement, and that improvement shouldn't have to
stand out and hit you in the face for you to notice it. If everybody
took such a stilted view of development, whether it be technological,
political, economical or otherwise, the world would go nowhere.
If you do not wish to try other products, as you feel your current
set-up is adequate for your needs, that is absolutely fine. I am not
adverse to people sitting back and leaving others to test new software
or make change. There are legitimate reasons, such as lack of interest,
knowledge and/or skill that may make you incapable, or unwilling to
locate, use and assess new software. But asking others what appeals to
them about other products is pointless. If I were to tell you that
Foobar has a very handy plug-in available for previewing sections of
songs, and that it comes in very useful when broadcasting internet radio
shows, would that apply to you? If I said that it uses less RAM than
WinAmp, would you care? For all I know, your computer might be a
powerhouse of a machine with an amount of memory that makes high RAM
usage insignificant.
I should also note that Foobar is extremely popular, and that popularity
is increasing constantly. This somewhat removes the notion that you
either look for new software or you don't; you can be alerted to the
existence of a new software application simply by reading status updates
on a social networking website, someone's e-mail signature, an article
on a blog related to a topic you were actually investigating, etc. I
didn't find Foobar through research into new media players; I found it
through a software recommendation.
Previously, Tom Kaufman said:
Christopher and list: Amen! If it ain't broke, don't fix it! I've
never tried Foover (I've no doubt that it's probably a good player) but
I so far have had good luck with Winamp, so why would I want to change?
What does Foover do that Winamp doesn't? I guess what I'm saying is:
if I felt the need to go with a different player, I'd probably give
this "Foover a try. But currently, Winamp seems to work okay for me!
Tom Kaufman
----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Chaltain"
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Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes
Well, I totally disagree with this statement. Maybe I hang around with
particularly cautious sighted people or particularly adventurous blind
people, but I don't find blind computer users any more reluctant to
try
new applications than sighted people. IMHO, this is a dangerous
stereotype, maybe caused by spending more time on blindness related
mailing lists than mailing lists frequented by the general public.
That being said, I also don't blame anyone who is happy with what
they're using and isn't looking to change. "If it isn't broken, don't
fix it." I used to spend all of my time looking for a better media
player, but then I decided I'd rather spend my time listening to music
than playing around with the various accessibility foibles of the
different media players out there.
On 15/04/11 03:48, Anders Holmberg wrote:
Hi!
Yes i totally agree with you.
Sometimes i think blind people are more afraid of security risks and
taking risks at all with their computers.
Personally i have tried several programs for windows on this machine
with mixed results.
Some programs work some don't.
However foobar is the greatest player i've tried.
/A
Brett Boyer skrev 2011-04-14 21:15:
By now you would think somebody would have done something. I think
it's because people who are blind stick to there one or two programs
and don't like to explore and try hnew things. If they only knew
that
foobar is one of the best media players out there.
I'm sure it doesn't need to be a very detailed set file since the
only
thing W E won't read is the main list view everything else is
accessible already.
,sigh.
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Anders Holmberg"
<and...@pipkrokodil.se>
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Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes
Hi!
Its a shame its not working with we.
I have had the same problems as you.
Suggest that you tell the devs of we to make a set file for it.
Hal and nvda also works great with it.
/A
Brett Boyer skrev 2011-04-13 23:04:
Hi. I'm trying to use foobar with window-eyes and for some strange
reason it is not working. Anyone have any ideas on how to make
this
wonderful audio program work with WE?
Jfw seems okay with it but I don't own a current version that
works
with windows 7. The only thing that doesn't work is the main
playlist listview. Any techys out there got ani idea on what I can
do to make this happen?
TIA
bb
Brett Boyer
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