Thanks for that and I do appreciate your comments regarding the sound of the 
internal speaker, I'll investigate again.


On 23/09/2013, at 11:02 AM, Adrian Spratt <adr...@adrianspratt.com> wrote:

> No, Dane. I was suggesting that the revision distributed by HW after the 
> review you read apparently improved the speaker quality. Like you, I assume 
> that the quality before then was bad. That review made me balk at buying the 
> new Stream until I read about  the improvements and spoke to an HW tech guy 
> who sounded honest and reliable. Everyone who has heard my Stream speaker is 
> impressed, considering its size.
> 
> I find HW to be responsive to user suggestions, and they seem to incorporate 
> them pretty quickly. 
> 
> I believe Aidan's and other lister comments make a good case for the Stream 
> as a first-rate device for reading books and other materials. You can pause 
> it on the proverbial dime, fast-forward and rewind in reliable increments, 
> set bookmarks and so much more. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 6:28 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream?
> 
> Nothing like hands-on experience, so the sound from the internal speaker of 
> the Victor Reader Stream isn't muffled? I wonder why the reviewer then said 
> it was/ Don't get me wrong, I'm not doubting what you're saying as you own a 
> machine but I wonder if the Plextalk Pocket or the Booksense sounds better.
> 
> Anything could sound better than that awful internal speaker on the older 
> victor Reader stream model, that was something right out of the absolutely 
> awful basket but then again, with NFB - No Friends Of The Blind - having 
> input into the design? Well one really couldn't expect all that much better.
> 
> 
> On 23/09/2013, at 7:40 AM, Adrian Spratt <adr...@adrianspratt.com> wrote:
> 
>> Appended to that Accessworld article was HumanWare's response in which they 
>> thank the reviewer for the suggestions and promise upcoming revisions to 
>> address them. HW has since put out a revision that was on the new Stream 
>> when I bought mine. The sound from the speaker is not muffled. 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
>> Trethowan
>> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 4:08 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream?
>> 
>> Okay, since this thread has drifted so far away from the Victor Reader 
>> Stream I thought I'd offer my 2 cents worth regarding Talking Book players.
>> 
>> Regarding the Victor Reader Stream? Well I doubt I'll be getting one as the 
>> machine offers me nothing whatever I don't have accept for an extra hole 
>> burnt in my pocket I don't need.
>> 
>> My assessment is based on 2 reviews I've read over the last few months in 
>> the Access World publication and the reviews presented in Access World are 
>> very independent in nature and presentation so I feel I'm reliable informed.
>> 
>> I understand that several bugs in the new victor Reader Stream model have 
>> been a-dressed but this fact alone still won't convince me to buy a Stream, 
>> what convinces me not to buy one is the statement in the review articles 
>> that the speaker of the Stream - whilst far better than that found on the 
>> older model - is still muffled.
>> 
>> As it happens I was in the right place at the right time and managed to 
>> purchase a VoiceSense at a perfectly reasonable price, the seller no longer 
>> required its use as he had fully migrated to an IOS setup.
>> 
>> The Voicesense alone in my view is the best talking book player I've ever 
>> owned offering a Daisy player and support for just about every other audio 
>> format on the planet, you can even stream radio stations to it if they have 
>> an MP3, AAC or WMA stream.
>> 
>> Now I know a new Voicesense isn't cheap but the price has come down 
>> considerably so given that fact and that the Voicesense has been 
>> specifically designed with accessibility in mind? Well all I say is that if 
>> you can manage to get your hands on one of these machines you'll be doing 
>> yourself a huge favour.
>> 
>> I like the attitude of Hims Inc, the idea seems to be to allow the Sense 
>> machines to "integrate" into modern technology seamlessly and as 
>> unintrusively as is possible, an example of this is the Dropbox client now 
>> found on the Voicesense.
>> 
>> 
>> On 23/09/2013, at 3:47 AM, Sunshine <sunsh...@abe.midco.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> It could be that the  pairing is different from most bluetooth devices.
>>> there are some devices that have a different way of pairing to the 
>>> booksense.
>>> what happens when you try and pair the logetec to the booksense?
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Brian Olesen" <br...@blindkom.dk>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:21 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> HI,
>>> Oh sad to hear, but there are so many Bluetooth profiles out there. It works
>>> perfectly on a Bose bluetooth speaker bar.
>>> 
>>> Brian
>>> 
>>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- 
>>> From: Anders Holmberg
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:05 AM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream?
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I have the booksens and i love it.
>>> Sadly my logitech headset seems not to work with the booksense.
>>> /A
>>> 21 sep 2013 kl. 21:45 skrev Brian Olesen <br...@blindkom.dk>:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Another more interesting unit is the one from Hims International.
>>>> It's called book sence.
>>>> This one you can connect to a speaker system via bluetooth. It has an FM
>>>> radio and is loaded with tons of other useful nice features.
>>>> But the Victor Stream 2 you asked about also is a very nice daisy player.
>>>> The new version even has stereo recording.
>>>> 
>>>> Brian
>>>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- From: Adrian Spratt
>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:30 PM
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>> Subject: RE: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream?
>>>> 
>>>> Excellent summary, Aidan. I have the new Stream, but I haven't tested all
>>>> the features you mention, including the Wi-Fi connection. I'd add a few
>>>> notes.
>>>> 
>>>> First, the new Stream reports how much battery charge is left in
>>>> percentage terms, and also how much power has been restored during
>>>> recharge.
>>>> 
>>>> Second, when you move from shelf to shelf, the Stream remembers where you
>>>> were in each one even after the unit is powered down. On the old device,
>>>> the Stream remembered only where you had been when the unit shut down, but
>>>> not where you'd been on each shelf.
>>>> 
>>>> Third, for NLS users, the new Stream moves faster between titles at level
>>>> 1.
>>>> 
>>>> Fourth, the speaker is significantly louder and clearer.
>>>> 
>>>> Fifth, the unit is smaller. As I recall, HumanWare says it's smaller by a
>>>> third. I didn't think it would matter, but it does.
>>>> 
>>>> My sixth point could go either way. The buttons are much more sensitive.
>>>> The drawback is that if I move while carrying the Stream on its strap and
>>>> it even lightly touches clothing or something else, a button is certain to
>>>> be pressed, interrupting my reading and forcing me to press a key or two
>>>> to get things going again. Despite this occasional annoyance, I like how
>>>> responsive the keys are.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan
>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 1:09 PM
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream?
>>>> 
>>>> I am going to by mine next month if all goes wel. I think the new
>>>> stream could've been a bit better, but there are enough bennifits for
>>>> me at least. First off, the old stream does only charch on the
>>>> adapter. No USB charching of any kind is supported. And that is sick
>>>> in the time we live in. So now the new stream does not just support
>>>> charching via USB, but it also charch with a pere USB adapter and only
>>>> have one port wich dubble as both an charching and connection port.
>>>> The thing I like about the new interface however, is that you can now
>>>> charch and listen wile its connected to the pc. Connect it wile the
>>>> unit is turned on, and it will charch and stil be able to play and be
>>>> usable. Turn it off and connect and turn back on again and the pc will
>>>> see it as a mass storage device like the old stream did. I am also
>>>> sick and tired of stupid Samantha and tom drink to much wisky and so
>>>> the newer acapela voices are more than usable. They really are what I
>>>> can use for long hours of reading. I love the fact that now on the new
>>>> stream you can set the sleep timer in custom incriments according to
>>>> your set time, and not only the presets they always allowed. And the
>>>> way the clock works is also very unique. They seprit the clock menus
>>>> from the regular player menu. That is ausom! Also the fact that all
>>>> features are now available on the unit without the need for a softpack
>>>> installation. And now it can do line in recording. It no longer
>>>> support recording of 3gp but mp3 and wave only. That is just fine. As
>>>> far as I no about the wifi situation, you have to either type in the
>>>> network info manually, or scan for the network and add it that way.
>>>> You might be able to add an incrippted network but I doubt it can
>>>> sync. Although you can confirm that with humanware. Maybe someone on
>>>> the stream list will no more there. And they might also help with the
>>>> nls thing, I never saw any notes regarding the presents of such
>>>> adapter like the old one. And I'm not in the US, and I didn't see the
>>>> player yet. Hope this help a bit.
>>>> 
>>>> On 21/09/2013, Matthew Chao <mattc...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hi, Folks.  I'm considering buying a new Victor Reader stream.  A few
>>>>> questions:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does it have an adapter for readingNLS cartridges?
>>>>> 
>>>>> How do you get the Reader to sync up with an encrypted wireless
>>>>> connection?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have the previous Victor Reader Stream.  What makes the newer one
>>>>> better?  Is it worth purchasing?  What do you like or not like about
>>>>> the newer one?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks in advance for any feedback you might have.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Matthew Chao
>>>>> 
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