there's nothing much in Australia to be found and I've known this ever since I 
got my first communications receiver equipped with Long wave all those years 
ago <smile>, though Australia did use Long Wave in the 20s and 30s.

The debate then was whether or not to keep using Long Wave, those in favour of 
the Long Wave system pointed out the vast distances Long Wave could travel 
using Ground wave thus any signal received at the radio end was immune from the 
sort of effects that Sky Wave cause, you only have to listen to Short Wave 
broadcasts or broadcasts at the top end of the Medium Wave band to know what 
I'm talking about here.

Those who were not in favour of the continuing use of the Long Wave Band 
pointed out that Long Wave was more seseptable to natural interference from 
thunderstorms activity and so on, in any case the use of the Long Wave band was 
given over to navigation beacons etc.


On 7 Jun 2014, at 11:22 pm, brian sackrider <n8...@comcast.net> wrote:

> I use to have radio shaak dx400 radio and would tune leftof the am broadcast 
> band from 150-540 or so and the only thing that I have ever heard on this 
> band was those 3 letter cw becons and weather and this was on a long wire 
> antanna and this was back in the 80's.  In 1986 I went toEurop and they did 
> broadcast on this band but it was in their own langueges. I think that those 
> 3 letter cw stations might be airport navagation stations and this is my 
> experiences with the long wave band.
> Brian Sackrider
> On 6/7/2014 6:19 AM, Colin Howard wrote:
>> Dane,
>> 
>> No, they are not taking it off air in 2016, 2020 at the very very earliest.
>> 
>> Do you want a long wave scan or just samples of stations?
>> 
>> I am quite happy to do a scann for you, waiting on each station for a few
>> minutes, but please be aware, I am located only three miles from the local
>> transmitter which carries A.M services and we get some imaging at the hf end
>> of long wave.
>> 
>> As for sets being sold with long wave, I am not aware of any lack, certainly
>> down here in Hampshire.
>> 
>> Radio 4 is on 198kHz and RTE1 (or is it 2)? is on 252kHz.  R4 is reasonable
>> but again, suffers problems due to the local A.M transmitter, primarily
>> because we have Talk Sport on 1107kHz which generates a hetrodyne on 198kHz,
>> I have not yet found a radio which totally nulls this, if you care to work
>> it out, 1107 minus 198 = more or less double the i.f of many sets, i.e 909,
>> most sets have an i.f of 465, 455 is half 909, rather close to the i.f of
>> 465, which most sets tend to use, least those which have a.m on the lf and
>> mf bands.
>> 
>> 
>> RTE on 252 here, is not very strong, but then being on the south coast, the
>> signal not really being very strong from the transmitter, it not really a
>> surprise.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 


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