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that would also work if you could do it

Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Samuel 
Wilkins
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 7:31
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: SoundCloud

I have noticed that nowadays, in the adjust system volume settings, you could 
turn down the browser
but leave the screen reader at its normal volume.  I have found this on 3 
computers that use
different sound cards using windows 7 and 8.1.

On 16/10/2015 22:10, ken wrote:
>        Hi,  the only thing that might work, is Get a usb external card 
> that has a speaker and direct you jaws , or windoweyes output to that 
> card..
> That's what I did, exept I have a usb mike and use the laptop's 
> speaker for my w e output.
>
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> -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 4:43 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: RE: SoundCloud
>
> An external speech synthesizer would eliminate this problem. Also, 
> scanning the web pate before pressing play would reveal the controls, 
> if any, that are accessible.
>
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> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Walter Ramage
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 2:23 AM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: SoundCloud
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> Hi.  I was asked to check this out from a user point of view and 
> didn't find it accessible.  I was asked on behalf of a charity project 
> to play around with pre-uploaded music files and didn't find the free 
> version much use.  This guy wanted to upload audio files for the 
> public to play such as info regarding government benefits etc.  I'll 
> paste my response to that guy below so you will see my experience.  
> Walter.
>
> Hi Glyn.  Firstly my apology; I was going through my deleted items, 
> clearing them out when I came across your email.  somehow it went 
> straight to my deleted items rather than my in box.  I would have 
> replied sooner if I had seen it so sorry about that.
>
> OK.  This is my initial input regarding the site.  The music is 
> displayed clearly and the play button is easy to find and activate but 
> that is where the simplicity ends and the problems begin.  Once you 
> have activated the play button and the music plays, there is no way 
> you can use the other play controls because the music drowns out the 
> screen reader and as there is no keyboard short cut keys trying to use 
> them is a hiding to nothing.
> You have
> to wait for a quiet passage in the audio before trying frantically to 
> find a control but the quiet period never lasts long enough for you to 
> find what you want.  This is the free version and I noticed there is a 
> Pro service but I guess you have to pay for that but there is no way 
> of telling if the pro version is any more accessible than the free 
> version and in any case, the people who would want to play any files 
> you upload would use the free service.  As I've said I've only looked 
> at the site briefly and when I discovered getting to the play controls 
> during playback was problematic I didn't go any further.  As with WMP, 
> if there were short cut keys such as
> Control+s for stop or Control+p for pause or control+m for mute
> or+control
> +r for rewind then it would be a good service to utilise.  It might be
> you
> can map the keyboard and create these shortcuts but I'd need to look 
> further into the site and I'll do that as soon as I can.  Of course 
> this initial summery is from a blind point of view.  People with 
> hearing loss or other disabilities but who have site, or even some 
> partially sighted folk would be able to use it.  Unfortunately though 
> if you have no usable sight and in the absence of play controls 
> accessibility then it wouldn't be of any use to them.  Nonetheless you 
> have to consider the majority of people who would use the facility and 
> a minority group shouldn't be allowed to veto something because they 
> are disenfranchised; you can please all of the people some of the time 
> and some of the people all of the time but you will never please all 
> of the people all of the time.  This doesn't mean that solutions 
> aren't sought to resolve the disenfranchisement and that might be by 
> linking to another service.  I will ask on the tech lists I'm on to 
> see what can be done and will get back to you.  Walter.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jim
> Portillo
> Sent: 16 October 2015 05:09
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: SoundCloud
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> Hello there,
>
>
>
> Has anyone used a program called SoundCloud with JAWS, and if so, how 
> easy
> is it to use?  I'm needing to start using it and am just beginning to see
> how it works.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Samuel Wilkins




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