Can Narrator work with Live Regions on the web? Is it responsive, with default voices, enough to be used full-time? Was it even designed to be a full screen reader? Yeah, you get my point. Comparing Voiceover on the Mac to Narrator is like comparing a ripe apple with an apple that has been left sitting out on the kitchen table for literally years.
Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 22, 2016, at 3:31 PM, Brian Olesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote: > > Hi Andy, > Narreator has definately improved over the latest years starting with windows > 8, and it's also free. > > Best regards > Brian > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Andy Logue > Sendt: 22. marts 2016 21:14 > Til: PC Audio Discussion List > Emne: Re: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10 > > He Guy's. I'm a Microsoft remember Ha? I understand nothing about Apple or > it's supports. I think, It's safe to assume however, that Apple will prove > very helpful. Just look at voice-over. Works out of the box on all > products for no extra cash. Not quite the Same as Microsoft and Freedom > Scientific eh? > > Very best wishes. > Andy. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona" <hank.smith...@gmail.com> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 5:45 PM > Subject: Re: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10 > > >> also applevis is another good resource >> www.applevis.com >> >>> On 3/22/2016 5:55 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> Why do you need to go to all that trouble when Apple has all the up to >>> date documentation on their support pages? >>> >>> >>>> On 22 Mar 2016, at 11:50 PM, Andy Logue <andy.logue...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> No Dane, you misunderstand me my friend. What I was saying was that >>>> this guy Mike really knew his stuff back then and must be up to date >>>> with all the newer devices and OS. All I need do is contact someone >>>> like Rick at the Blind Geek Zone, who may well put me in touch with >>>> him. >>>> >>>> Very best wishes. >>>> Andy. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" >>>> <grtd...@internode.on.net> >>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:35 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10 >>>> >>>> >>>> 2011 was 5 years ago and much has changed since then so time to get hold >>>> of some updated information me thinks and I don’t care how good he >>>> sounds to listen to, accurate and up to date information is more >>>> important. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 22 Mar 2016, at 11:31 PM, Andy Logue <andy.logue...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Brian. >>>>> >>>>> Yes, I was listening this morning to a Blind Cool Tech archive >>>>> concerning the Mac Demo 14, which was recorded in 2011, by a guy called >>>>> Mike Arrigo. I just loved listening to this guy speak and that of >>>>> course was almost five years ago. >>>>> >>>>> I've no doubt that If Mike has an up to date tutorial on the new imac >>>>> Retina, with some hard work, I'll learn the key-strokes This morning, >>>>> I was also in contact with an organisation in Glasgow who have an open >>>>> door policy to learning all Apple products. Aparently, all you do is >>>>> walk in the front door and you'll get a chance to feel and check-out >>>>> the item of your choice, which in my situation is a desk-top Mac. >>>>> >>>>> So I'm getting pretty excitted now about finding out more. Much more >>>>> excited than toing attending a Windows 10 demo, So my mind is clearly >>>>> made up, just need a little more cash now. >>>>> >>>>> Very best wishes. >>>>> >>>>> Andy. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Olesen" <br...@blindkom.dk> >>>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 11:29 AM >>>>> Subject: SV: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> Interacting with things in mac OS requires quite a lot of key strokes >>>>> though. >>>>> On the winning side web browsing is a breeze on Mac. >>>>> >>>>> Brian >>>>> >>>>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >>>>> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Robert >>>>> Nelson >>>>> Sendt: 21. marts 2016 22:40 >>>>> Til: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >>>>> Emne: RE: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps but you must understand that learning about Mac OS and >>>>> VoiceOver is >>>>> only the beginning. >>>>> >>>>> If you had no experience with windows, you would accept that the >>>>> awkward >>>>> way things are done in MAC OS is normal but with a little experience >>>>> of >>>>> windows you will find yourself trying to work out the mind set of those >>>>> who >>>>> devised the OS and VoiceOver. >>>>> >>>>> However, given your experience in windows you may find that something >>>>> like >>>>> audio editing has a steep learning curve. Yes, I know that Garage >>>>> Band, >>>>> Amadeus Pro and Twisted Wave are very good audio editing programs for >>>>> sighted people but for a blind person they can be very frustrating. >>>>> >>>>> The question you should be asking yourself is: is there anything that I >>>>> would want to do that can only be done on a Mac and, if so, is it >>>>> important >>>>> enough for you to justify the outlay, considering that most of the >>>>> things >>>>> you might want to do are possible through your I Phone. >>>>> >>>>> Anyhow, excuse me while I duck around the back to avoid the arrows and >>>>> flames of the Apple fans! >>>>> >>>>> Bob Nelson >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy >>>>> Logue >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 22 March 2016 5:46 AM >>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10 >>>>> >>>>> Hi Devon and Hamit. >>>>> >>>>> I've always wanted to check out a mac computer but because ive been so >>>>> brainwashed in Microsoft, I didn't have the self confidence to try it >>>>> out >>>>> for myself. >>>>> >>>>> What I was thinking was to keep my old Windows machine active for my >>>>> mail >>>>> and so on, but the Mac could sit alone in another room and if I spend >>>>> some >>>>> time each day, then I should be able to grasp the basic? eh? >>>>> Especially if >>>>> >>>>> I joined a blind mac list. >>>>> >>>>> One thing I have already found out that my Imac Store, which is in >>>>> glasgow, >>>>> will spend up to an hour with a new customer in the shop. Perhaps they >>>>> may >>>>> be interessted in offering me a little more start-up time, given my >>>>> blindness? Worth checking out eh? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your ideas guys. For the meantime, I'm going to check out >>>>> everything I can on the Imac Retina on the webpage. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks again. >>>>> Andy. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Devin Prater" <d.pra...@me.com> >>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 4:17 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Apple has a getting started guide, right when you turn on a new Mac. >>>>> Just >>>>> wait a minute or two then follow the spoken instructions. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 21, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> An IMac as in the Apple computer? If so there are Mac lists and stuff >>>>>> but >>>>>> you'd have to listen to a lot of podcasts and stuff because you must >>>>>> then >>>>>> now learn Mac OS. If I'm understanding the question correctly. I had >>>>>> learned >>>>>> Mac OS but I've gotten Rusty. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >>>>>> Andy >>>>>> Logue >>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:57 AM >>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>>> Subject: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10 >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all. >>>>>> >>>>>> I love everything audio concerning my computer. I've music, described >>>>>> movies and talking books and I use programmes such as Goldwave to >>>>>> record >>>>>> streaming music. I also love burning the odd CD for a friend and >>>>>> recently, >>>>>> I've purchased a Zoom H6 digital recorder for even more interesting >>>>>> audio >>>>>> work. >>>>>> >>>>>> Many of my friends, who are not blind are telling me to buy the new >>>>>> Imac >>>>>> Retina and plug that into my AV and sound system. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any members use Imac for this sort ofstuff and is there any support >>>>>> for a >>>>>> new comer like myself about. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any advice would be very much appriciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> Very best wishes. >>>>>> Andy. >>>> ********** >>>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of >>>> the halfwits in this world behind. >>> ********** >>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of >>> the halfwits in this world behind. > > > >
