Hi Dhruv,

Thank you for your feedback, this is valuable.

I fully agree with your first statement: so far, any PCEP peer is
assumed as RSVP-TE-compliant. When no path setup type is explicitly
expressed, this must remain the assumption, I am not questioning the
default.
However, I believe there will be some networks (e.g. SR-enabled) where:
- multiple PCEs may support different capabilities while, in the current
I-D, the only way for a PCC to identify that RSVP-TE is not supported
would be to send a PCReq and get a session-closing "Unsupported path
setup type" error;
- some PCCs are not actually RSVP-TE-capable, thus PCE-initiated TE-LSPs
will also face a session-closing "Unsupported path setup type" error (by
the way, I feel we should not close the session in this case).

I see two ways to address this case with a reasonable effort:
- assume that when path setup types are explicitly expressed (which
remains optional), there is no implicit assumption, thus the RSVP-TE
capability advertisement proposed below;
- stick with this implicit RSVP-TE support by default, which would
require an RSVP-TE-NON-SUPPORT TLV some time.

Assuming we can agree on the requirement, I prefer to add TLVs to
express capabilities rather than disable them. If you believe otherwise,
I wonder if the latter proposal would be an acceptable trade-off.

Cheers,

Julien


May. 03, 2017 - dhruv.i...@gmail.com:
> Hi Julien, 
>
> In my understanding, PCEP sessions are always RSVP-TE capable. 
> One may not want any LSP to be signaled by RSVP-TE, in which case
> PATH-SETUP-TYPE TLV would be encoded per LSP (in case of SR, this is
> MUST anyways by SR I-D).   
>
> Also, isnt this, what we have always done with stateless to stateful
> PCE or P2P to P2MP extensions and so on, should we consider
> path-setup-type to be different?  
>
> Just some thoughts, lets see what the authors/WG think...
>
> Regards,
> Dhruv
>  
>
> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Julien Meuric
> <julien.meu...@orange.com <mailto:julien.meu...@orange.com>> wrote:
>
>     [Chair hat off]
>
>     Authors of draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type,
>
>     Reading the I-D, it looks to me that a (small) piece is missing.
>     Let us
>     assume that I want my PCEP peers to advertise they are both SR-capable
>     and RSVP-TE-capable over a given session: the SR-PCE-CAPABILITY TLV is
>     defined in the SR I-D, but where is the RSVP-TE counterpart? I feel we
>     should add a 4-byte RSVP-TE-CAPABILITY TLV, with length = 0 and
>     recommended omission in case of RSVP-TE only.
>
>     My 50 cents,
>
>     Julien
>
>
>     May. 02, 2017 - Julien Meuric:
>     > Dear all,
>     >
>     > The aforementioned I-D has been stable for a while. This message
>     > initiates a 2-week WG Last Call on draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-04.
>     > Please send your comments to the PCE mailing list by May 15.
>     >
>     > Thanks,
>     >
>     > Jon, JP & Julien
>     >
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