As I remember, it is the IANA first allocate the necessary values, then go to 
the RFCEditor.

Can we ask the IANA to (early) allocate the value now? 

Aijun Wang
China Telecom

> On May 24, 2023, at 17:12, tom petch <ie...@btconnect.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Aijun Wang <wangai...@tsinghua.org.cn>
> Sent: 23 May 2023 07:59
> 
> Hi, Tom:
> 
> Thanks for your review.
> 
> I have uploaded the new version to address your comments.
> 
> I am trying to find some more convenient methods to describe the un-allocated 
> "TBDnnn" from the IANA. Do you have any suggestions that can't be "too easy 
> to miss"?
> 
> My purpose is that once the IANA allocates the value to each of these values 
> according to our requests 
> (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-21#section-14)
> 
> , I can replace them easily in the updated version.
> 
> <tp>
> 
> Mmm  I did look at other I-D for another way but think that this is unusual 
> in the number of TBDnnn in the body of the I-D, not in the IANA 
> Considerations.  I did not see a request for early allocation so the values 
> will not be assigned until the I-D is about to leave the RFC Editor Queue so 
> it is the RFC Editor, not you, who has to find all the instances of TBDnnn 
> and replace them.  Common practice is to add a 
> -- Note to the RFC Editor
> in each and every place where such action is needed outside the IANA 
> Considerations.  There are a lot of them; 44 I think.  I think that at least 
> there should be a Note to the RFC Editor in IANA Considerations to the effect 
> that these values appear in many places and need editing.
> 
> I will post separately a concern about BGP session setup.
> 
> Tom Petch
> 
> 
> For the interaction between BGP and PCEP, we think the paces or procedures 
> described in this document can be controlled by the PCE------Once the PCE 
> sends the command to PCC, it will collect the status of such command. Only 
> when the previous command is executed successfully, then the next command can 
> be issued. Section 6 cover the descriptions of main procedures.
> 
> For your other comments, please see replies inline.
> 
> 
> 
> Huaimo  also gives us more valuable suggestions to refine the document 
> offline. I have also incorporated them together in the updated version.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks all you together!
> 
> 
> 
> Future reviews from other experts can be based on the updated version.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> 
> 
> Aijun Wang
> 
> China Telecom
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pce-boun...@ietf.org <pce-boun...@ietf.org> On Behalf Of tom petch
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 7:35 PM
> To: Dhruv Dhody <d...@dhruvdhody.com>; pce@ietf.org
> Cc: pce-chairs <pce-cha...@ietf.org>; 
> draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native...@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Pce] WGLC for draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-20
> 
> 
> 
> From: Pce <pce-boun...@ietf.org<mailto:pce-boun...@ietf.org>> on behalf of 
> Dhruv Dhody <d...@dhruvdhody.com<mailto:d...@dhruvdhody.com>>
> 
> Sent: 16 May 2023 23:15
> 
> 
> 
> This email starts a 2-weeks working group last call for 
> draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-20 [1].
> 
> 
> 
> <tp>
> 
> I had a look and decided that it is mostly beyond me - I am not up to speed 
> with all the 15 Normative References, in particular with RFC8821.  I would 
> prefer that this I-D provided a better bridge to the material in RFC8821.
> 
> 
> 
> I note that RFC8821 is an as yet unapproved downref which reinforces that 
> view.
> 
> 
> 
> I note too that the Abstract references this and 8735 as anchors which 
> Abstracts must not do.
> 
> [WAJ] Remove the anchors in the abstract.
> 
> 
> 
> The I-D uses the word 'draft' in many places.  These must be changed.
> 
> [WAJ] Changed the "draft" to "document" within the entire document.
> 
> 
> 
> The I-D has a large number of TBDnnn with no note requesting that they are 
> replaced;  I find these easy to miss.
> 
> [WAJ] Do you have any suggestions that can't be "easy to miss"?
> 
> 
> 
> p.9 2)
> 
> seems to end mid-sentence.
> 
> [WAJ] Updated
> 
> 
> 
> The English is not quite in several places and could be confusing.  Thus p.5 
> "Further only one
> 
>   of BPI, EPR, or PPA object MUST be present.  "
> 
> I can interpret in two ways although subsequent text makes one the preferred 
> one.
> 
> [WAJ] Change the phrase to "Further only one and one kind of BPI,EPR, or PPA 
> object MUST be present", is it better?
> 
> 
> 
> I suspect that there are many potential interactions with BGP, especially 
> when things are not going quite right, and that the I-D does not cover them 
> all.  The language used is not that of BGP (e.g. Established, speaker).  The 
> timing too of BGP can be quite slow, in setup and in shutdown and I wonder 
> how a PCC copes with that.
> 
> [WAJ] Once the PCC receives the PCInitiate message that include BPI (BGP Peer 
> Info) object, it will try to build the BGP session between the peers that 
> indicates in the BPI object. Only when it establishes the BGP session 
> successfully, it will report the PCE via the PCRpt message(as that described 
> in section 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-21#section-6.1).
>  Then the PCE can send other instruction to the PCCs.  Actually, the 
> procedures described in this document is asynchronous.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> As I say, largely beyond me but the English needs some attention;  using the 
> terminology of BGP would help.
> 
> 
> 
> Tom Petch
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Please indicate your support or concern for this draft. If you are opposed to 
> the progression of the draft to RFC, please articulate your concern. If you 
> support it, please indicate that you have read the latest version and it is 
> ready for publication in your opinion. As always, review comments and nits 
> are most welcome.
> 
> 
> 
> The WG LC will end on Wednesday 31st May 2023. We will also notify the IDR WG 
> about this WGLC.
> 
> 
> 
> A general reminder to the WG to be more vocal during the last-call/adoption 
> and help us unclog our queues :)
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dhruv & Julien
> 
> 
> 
> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip/
> 
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