Lou,

        What would be the point?  Then it is merely a traffic
engineer application.

--
Eric

--> -----Original Message-----
--> From: Lou Berger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 5:30 PM
--> To: Gray, Eric
--> Cc: Berger, Lou; Gray, Eric; Ash, Gerald R (Jerry), ALABS; 
--> Gray, Eric;
--> Ash, Gerald R (Jerry), ALABS; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--> Subject: RE: [Pce] WG Last Call ended on
--> draft-ietf-pce-architecture-02.txt
--> 
--> 
--> humm, can't it be used within a single domain?
--> 
--> Lou
--> 
--> At 05:26 PM 10/14/2005, Gray, Eric wrote:
--> 
--> >Lou,
--> >
--> >         MDPC Architecture is less misleading...
--> >
--> >--
--> >Eric
--> >
--> >--> -----Original Message-----
--> >--> From: Lou Berger 
--> [<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--> >--> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 4:31 PM
--> >--> To: Gray, Eric
--> >--> Cc: Berger, Lou; Ash, Gerald R (Jerry), ALABS; Gray, Eric;
--> >--> Ash, Gerald R
--> >--> (Jerry), ALABS; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--> >--> Subject: RE: [Pce] WG Last Call ended on
--> >--> draft-ietf-pce-architecture-02.txt
--> >-->
--> >-->
--> >--> At 04:25 PM 10/14/2005, Gray, Eric wrote:
--> >-->
--> >--> >Uh, PC (Path Computation)?  MDPC (multi-domain path 
--> computation)?
--> >--> >
--> >--> >What do you think PCE itself stands for in this - 
--> larger - context?
--> >--> >Certainly nothing intuitive.
--> >-->
--> >--> precisely the point!
--> >-->
--> >--> >Rather than change an intuitively meaningful acronym 
--> to accommodate
--> >--> >an arbitrary (and intuitively meaningless) misuse, why not
--> >--> stop using
--> >--> >the acronym in the larger sense?
--> >-->
--> >--> I'm completely fine with this.  So does the "PCE Architecture"
--> >--> document become  "PC Architecture"?
--> >-->
--> >--> Lou
--> >-->
--> >--> >--
--> >--> >Eric
--> >--> >
--> >--> >--> -----Original Message-----
--> >--> >--> From: Lou Berger
--> >--> 
--> >[<<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>mailto
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--> >--> >--> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 4:14 PM
--> >--> >--> To: Ash, Gerald R (Jerry), ALABS
--> >--> >--> Cc: Gray, Eric; Berger, Lou; Ash, Gerald R (Jerry), ALABS;
--> >--> >--> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--> >--> >--> Subject: RE: [Pce] WG Last Call ended on
--> >--> >--> draft-ietf-pce-architecture-02.txt
--> >--> >-->
--> >--> >-->
--> >--> >--> Gerry,  Eric,
--> >--> >-->          So what term do you use when referring to the
--> >--> >--> identification
--> >--> >--> of paths using PCCs and PCEs?  The architecture
--> >--> document seems to
--> >--> >--> also call this PCE.
--> >--> >-->
--> >--> >--> Having PCE refer to the whole process and also to a
--> >--> >--> component in the
--> >--> >--> process seems to be very confusing, and it'll only get
--> >--> >--> worse as time
--> >--> >--> goes on and the amount of material and discussions
--> >--> increase. IMO it
--> >--> >--> would be better to endure the small pain now to fix
--> >--> the limited set
--> >--> >--> of documents we have now rather than having to endure
--> >--> all the pain
--> >--> >--> and confusion for years to come.
--> >--> >-->
--> >--> >--> Lou
--> >--> >-->
--> >--> >--> At 02:07 PM 10/14/2005, Ash, Gerald R \(Jerry\), 
--> ALABS wrote:
--> >--> >-->
--> >--> >--> >Eric,
--> >--> >--> >Lou,
--> >--> >--> >
--> >--> >--> > > PCE stands for "Path Computation Engine"
--> >--> >--> >
--> >--> >--> >'PCE' stands for 'Path Computation Element'.
--> >--> >--> >
--> >--> >--> > > PCS when talking the computing/server component.
--> >--> >--> >
--> >--> >--> >'PCS' was the old name for 'PCE', however 'PCS'
--> >--> connotes too much a
--> >--> >--> >separate 'server' implementation of 'PCE' (which doesn't
--> >--> >--> have to be a
--> >--> >--> >separate network element, but can be 'composite'), so
--> >--> >--> 'PCS' terminology
--> >--> >--> >was replaced by 'PCE'.
--> >--> >--> >
--> >--> >--> >Thanks,
--> >--> >--> >Jerry
--> >--> >-->
--> >-->
--> 

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