hi j-l 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: LE ROUX Jean-Louis RD-CORE-LAN 
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> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 2:09 PM
> To: PAPADIMITRIOU Dimitri; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Pce] New PCE working group I-Ds
> 
> Hi Dimitri,
> 
> Thanks for these comments.
> 
> Please see inline,
> 
> 
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : PAPADIMITRIOU Dimitri 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Envoyé : mardi 14 août 2007 21:04
> > À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Objet : RE: [Pce] New PCE working group I-Ds
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 5:32 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [Pce] New PCE working group I-Ds
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > The meeting in Chicago was broadly in support of adopting 
> > two I-Ds as 
> > > working group drafts:
> > > 
> > > - Encoding of Objective Functions in Path Computation 
> Element (PCE)
> > >   communication and discovery protocols
> > >   draft-leroux-pce-of-01.txt
> > 
> > ok, three comments though: 
> > 
> > - units B-R is from def. speed(bps)-res.capacity(b) -> ? 
> >please check
> 
> B is in bps and R is in bps. 
> B-R is the actual bandwidth consumption on the link, in bps.
> We will clarify the units in next revision.

i thought that capacity/residual bandwidth was expressed in b
and you were using the term speed for bps - pls check

> > - still unclear to me whether isis pce disc. will or not use a
> >   separate inst. (cf. gen-app discussion at isis working group)
> 
> ISIS pce disc relies on procedures defined in 4971. 
> This is a deployment issue to use same or separate instances.

do you assume that you would leave such choice possible ? i 
was left with the impression after last isis mtg discussion
that there is a real incentive for making this a recommended
behavior

> > - question about oscillation effects resulting from opposed obj.
> >   adv. from diff. pce's
> 
> Would you please clarify and provide an example?

PCE_1 advertizing OF_1 attracts all demands in normal
conditions while PCE_2 advertizing OF_2 attracts demands
after failure/re-routing or other rare event

hence, you would then be balancing between both PCEs 
after failure and when reverting and back again if the 
failure occur once more (e.g. flapping)

i am not saying this will happen but heterogeneity in
OF advertized may lead to unbalanced request between
PCEs

thanks,
-d. 

> Regards,
> 
> JL
> 
> > 
> > > - Diff-Serv Aware Class Type Object for Path Computation Element
> > >   Communication Protocol draft-sivabalan-pce-dste-01.txt
> > 
> > architectural impact to be clarified before moving forward i 
> > think that the important disc. point is whether such info 
> > obtained from TED or via other means
> > 
> > also from <http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/07mar/minutes/pce.txt>
> > 
> > * 13) Diff-Serv Aware Class Type Object for Path Computation Element
> > * Communication Protocol
> > * draft-sivabalan-pce-dste-00.txt (Jon Parker - 5mn) [95]
> > *
> > * Pce does not know class pool.
> > * Dimitri: in interprovider context, how do you assure global 
> > significance?
> > * Jon: this is an issue not tackled here.
> > * Adrian: how PCE has knowledge class pool ? You would 
> > suggest to build this knowledge based on IGP
> > * flooded information ?
> > * JP: please respin the draft tackling issue raised by Dimitri
> > * Not many people red the draft
> > 
> > -> draft still does not seem to address that issue.
> >  
> > > Can you please indicate your opinion.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Now that the inter-AS requirements work is stable, the 
> > authors of two 
> > > I-Ds related to the use of PCE for P2MP path computations 
> > (Adrian is 
> > > one of the
> > > authors) have asked us to look at adopting this work. We 
> > think that a 
> > > little more discussion is needed first, and have asked them 
> > to present 
> > > the I-Ds in Vancouver so that we can make a decision immediately 
> > > afterwards. Please have a look at the I-Ds and send your 
> > comments to 
> > > the mailing list.
> > > 
> > > - PCC-PCE Communication Requirements for Point to Multipoint
> > >   Multiprotocol Label Switching Traffic Engineering (MPLS-TE)
> > >   draft-yasukawa-pce-p2mp-req-02.txt
> > > 
> > > - Applicability of the Path Computation Element (PCE) to
> > >    Point-to-Multipoint (P2MP) Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS)
> > >    and Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) Traffic Engineering (TE)
> > >    draft-yasukawa-pce-p2mp-app-00.txt
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > JP and Adrian
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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