At 09:58 PM 12/20/2002, flawed jai typed thusly:

>ok-- questions and discussion:
>there's a plain metal 'pan' clipped flat on top of the 603e chip. Is
>that a heat sink? are there more effective ways to cool it than that
>rudimentary device? looked pretty crude compared to other heatsinks I've
>seen. The PC fair is tomorrow and sunday. Wondered if i should shop for
>a better heatsink assembly than what it has  on it.

Well, you might be able to find a fan or some such, but I don't think 
you'll need much more than that heat sink...
I'm writing this before i hook it up and turn in on. don't even know
>what OS he had on it. never wandered thru OS 8 or 9 before. what am I
>looking for? where am I heading? to find out
>
>Hard drive size.

Click drive icon.  "Get info"  (which all of a sudden I can't remember... 
command-I? or just from the menu.)


>Ram installed

Apple menu. "About this Macintosh" (or "About this computer.)

Oh, yeah, the modem.  According to LEM, it came with a COMM slot II 28.8 modem.

>I WOULD like to play PC games on it, CD's like civlization I and II,
>star trek, Myst---so visuals will mean a lot to me. gaming rendering.
>armed with this, what PCI video cards could I buy for this at the fair
>tomorrow?

Don't know about civ I and II (and are you saying you want to run something 
like VirtualPC and run "PC Games," or just get games running on it?)  Myst 
plays well on an old Quadra, even. As does the original Warcraft. Sounds 
like you're going past what I have (120 MHz 603,) so Diablo and Starcraft 
should be quite doable (Diablo's fine at 120 MHz unless networked - might 
be RAM for me, too, now that I think of it.... )

All of which, I might add, are quite cheap these days. <g>


here's  another item:
>this computer takes IDE hard drive.
>the motherboard does not use the typical 40 or 50 pin ribbon cable to
>hook to the board. the leading edge of the logic board on the front of
>the 'drawer' uses the kind of interface PCI cards use, to punch down
>into a PCI slot, to connect with the input devices [floppie drive, cd
>rom reader] that confounds my replacing the 8x cdrom with a 24x. but i'd
>like to.

Took me a bit to figure out what you were saying here...
No, the cables don't plug directly into the mainboard, as you noticed - 
obviously it'd be hard to slide the mainboard out otherwise. However, you 
should be able to replace the drive on *its* end of the cable. Not sure why 
this is "confounding" your replacing the CD ROM right offhand... don't 
recall right offhand if it's an IDE or SCSI CD ROM, either...

>
>last year I had a runched powerbook duo 2300c, and in hopes i could get
>it fixed, i bought a laptop sized IDE drive at this same fair for it.
>1.2 gigs. the PB didnt revive but I still have the drive, unopened, new
>in package.  Can it go into this machine? or on the outside in a SCSI
>case adapted to its small size? give me good ideas, here.

I don't *believe* so. Never know if you might find some adaptor or other, 
but something like that sounds spendy.


>also-the speed of RPM the hard drive spins at:
>if i get one for this machine as it runs now, what RPM range is
>comfortable for it with a 603e, 40 bus and 160 processor.
>alternately, when i put the G3 L2 in it, what RPM's is it gonna want,
>then?

Honestly, I don't think it'll care. Most drives you'll find would be 5400 
or 72<74?>00 RPM. They pretty much could care less what the processor is.


>and what is the max HD size i ought to stop at, considering the power
>supply limits onboard, vs an externally powered SCSI casing, daisy
>chained out the back?

Biggest question is... what do *you* want to do with it?  A 60 Gb HD with 
45 Gb free is mostly waste, after all.

>named brands? wisdom? experience?

Well, I've had lots of luck with Maxtor the past few years. Good warranty, 
too. Western Digital's gone from "must buy" to "sorta touchy" with me in 
the last few years.


>oh--and is there any way to attach two PCI cards on one adapter on this
>board? it has a right angle PCI adapter on it now. tho no cards as yet.
>any other PCI cards I might want for it?

I don't believe such an adaptor is made, and given the way PCI is, I don't 
think I'd trust one if it was!


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