Here's what I mean: As far as Java goes; I've NEVER had a problem with ANY website when I'm using the MS VM. I ALWAYS have problems with Java at websites when it's being viewed using Sun. I'm sure most of these sites are North American, UK & AU since that's about all I visit, and I can't say how old or how new they are.
There's two sites that I immediately recall an example since they are sites I frequently visit. Screen shot of an applet as seen by the MS VM: http://orpheuscomputing.com/images4/MSJM.gif This is the way it was DESIGNED to be seen (and also, the other animated variables are also accurate and correct). The same applet as seen by Sun: http://orpheuscomputing.com/images4/Sun.gif Note the basic "default" font of Times New Roman (I think). Animated variables are all off. Another applet seen by the MS VM: http://orpheuscomputing.com/images4/MSJM2.gif Note how clear it is, and how easily read. Now, the applet as seen by Sun: http://orpheuscomputing.com/images4/Sun2.gif ...note again the default 'windows color' background instead of the specified tag on the webpage. The last two are from http://www.dslreports.com/stest/0 , then clicking the 'linkline.com' test link. What I'm saying, is it just makes sense to use the Java "machine" that more accurately displays websites the way they were intended to be. -Clint God Bless Us All Clint Hamilton, Owner Want to exchange links with us? http://OrpheusComputing.com � ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Kaulback" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In the hour of 10:24 PM 26/02/2003 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke this: >Yeah, it may be old, but it's more accurate that Sun. Compare a browser >using Sun Java to one using MS Java, and you'll see the difference. Sun >doesn't seem to correctly "obey" specified commands or tags within a >Java applet, like for example; fonts, timing of the applet, colors, etc. >I can't say if I'm looking at old or new applets. To use an aphorism >with this to browsers; I'd say Sun Java is like Netscape (not compatible >with many websites), and MS VM is like IE (being compatible with all >websites). Well, I put your view to the test with a clean install of XP with SP1 against a clean install of XP with SP1 using the Sun JVM 1.4.1, virtual machines are great for this and besides I need it for testing sites too.:) I did not find your perceptions to be accurate. From viewing sites in Asia, Europe, and North America I did notice that many sites using certain classes viewed with the MS JVM (3809) balked (whether these are new variants or not I can't say as I have not run them through the Console), and some financial sites in Asia and Europe were troublesome as well but these have been common since the MS JVM 3808. Other JVM's are popular around the world, the IBM JVM is more popular in the Asian Pacific region than anybody else. Look at older applets created when Netscape was the top browser and you will see IE fail from time to time. The same can be said with using other browsers like Mozilla or Opera and other platforms like Mac. If being up to date with compatibility, stability, and security is of concern then use a JVM other than the M$ JVM http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Programming/Languages/Java/Imp lementations/ Peter Kaulback ============= PCWorks Mailing List ================= Don't see your post? Check our posting guidelines & make sure you've followed proper posting procedures, http://pcworkers.com/rules.htm Contact list owner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribing and other changes: http://pcworkers.com =====================================================
