Yeah, just remove the browser and use IE or some other.  Actually,
personally I wouldn't even trust them as my ISP but that part is up to you.
:-)

No website has any business DEMANDING a visitor MUST accept their cookie
just to see the webpage!  Sites that do this do not deserve your visit and
I always just leave the site never to return.  Exceptions are sites where
you have to login, or sites where you order something; those of course you
usually have to be able to accept cookies from them in order to login, or
enable a shopping cart of some type.

Also note that where sites that cannot "pass the test for successfully
giving you a cookie" when IE6's privacy settings are set to "high", have no
business in the first place trying to give you one.  The cookies are
blocked at that setting for a reason.  Only legit, decent websites with
friendly privacy policies can successfully place a cookie on your HD when
the settings are set to "high".  If you must manually accept a cookie from
these type sites (like if you have to order something from one that is
getting a cookie blocked), just temporarily accept the cookie, then when
you are through go to your temp. net files folder and delete that cookie as
well as all others you don't need.  It's a good habit to dump ALL of the
cookies you don't need on a weekly basis.  *I dump mine about every two
days and keep ONLY those for websites that require either a login, or
personalized site features (like message boards that you want a specific
layout or color scheme for).

In addition to Zone Alarm's settings you should also run BOTH SpyBot and
AdAware on about a weekly basis and before you run each BE SURE to check
for new database updates.

*A great thing to do is to set IE's settings to "empty contents of
temporary internet files when browser is closed".  This is of no
consequence to those on DSL or cable since the pages load so fast.  But
those on a dialup may not like IE set this was because when you go back to
page, it won't be cached and it will have to load all over again.  It's up
to them to decide if they want the best security with a little slowdown.
This setting will not affect cookies or the contents of the so to speak
'extended cache' "Content.IE5" folder.  The cookie folder has to be tended
to manually, because if you click the button to "delete cookies" then of
course you lose the ones you may need to keep (unless you use a 3rd party
cookie manager).  When you click the button to "delete files" in that same
area (under IE settings and "temporary internet files") it doesn't dump
what's in the "Content.IE5" folder so it has to be tended to manually as
well....it should be completely emptied every few days.
-Clint

God Bless Us All
Clint Hamilton, Owner
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Browning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Clint, when you say remove it what do you mean? I should select IE as my
default browser but still keep MSN as my ISP. I'm a little confused. You
are
right it is horrifying especially when you learn of this from others
instead
of the company doing it. By the way I am using zone alarm and it is set to
high for ad blocking and cookies. Some site give me grief when I do this
though.
Larry
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Also, go to www.msn.com and check out the red "-" @lower right in IE
  denoting a blocked cookie.  It may not be blocked on your PC if your
  settings are below "high", (mine are ALWAYS set to as high as possible
  without blocking all, as should everyone's).  Double click the red minus
  sign then the click the URL, next click "summary" and check out what they
  do!  It can't be copied and pasted anywhere so you'll just have go there
  and read it yourself.  In short it states they "Collect personal data" by
  "unique identifiers" that "identify and INDIVIDUAL over time".  Also,
they
  "give this information to third parties", on and on and on.  Pretty
  horrifying.  I recommend everyone to place msn.com to your RESTRICTED
  website area so they can't put any tracking and spying cookies on your
  HD....and stay away from a scum site like that.
  -Clint


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"


  That browser is known to be form of spyware, and it's probably doing a
lot
  more than that.  I'd remove it and go with IE or Netscape.  AdAware or
  SpyBot may not see it as spyware since they can't detect which
  programs/software are collecting personal data and sending it bask to
MSN,
  and it may not be in their databases.
  -Clint

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Larry Browning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

  For some reason when I try to close MSN 8 using XP Pro I hear the voice
say
  "good bye" 3 times. Also when I try not to go on line with MSN and just
  close
  the sign on screen I have to close it 3 times. It is as if the modem is
set
  for echo or something like that. Any ideas?

  Thank Larry
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