Like I've been saying Harold, only you (or someone that uses ZA) will be able to answer what can be unchecked for it from MSCONFIG. From what it says, it sounds like you would have to keep TrueVector running always and you 'may' be able to disable ZA Client once all the settings are correct, then have a shortcut to its executable on the Quick Launch toolbar to click it when you needed to change a setting, if I understand how that works. You'll have to confirm it's still working after anything is disabled at a site like GRC.com .
As for AVG, you could disable the updater since you don't need that for proper functioning, I would assume all that does is keeps checking out on the net for updates. I always disable ALL auto updates on ALL software I use since I don't want the 'ware always "communicating home" since that consumes bandwidth and resources. I check for updates for my AV software manually a few times a day. I have a shortcut to that executable on my QL toolbar that I can click when I want to check. As long as you have the main AVG scanning engine scanning your **ENTIRE** HD and set to **scan ALL files**, you really don't need the email scanning. You don't need the System Monitor running for long or always, just to see if you can figure out where the resources are going. By default it only monitors one thing as you can see, the Kernel processor usage. Set the update intervals to 1 sec. so you can see it change more frequently. Each move of only a mouse makes the graph plateau higher. Use your PC as normal and refer to the graph each time you do something and try to pin down if something is "leaking" or sucking up a lot of usage. I haven't been on '98 in so long I can't remember which other items to add to the list. I don't have the SE PC on or even put together right now so I can't check, another '98 user should be able to tell you. Add them all, or add one a time and look for any spikes and high plateaus that remain. You may be able to look at the available list and rule a few of them out from their name alone. I opened with 97-98% resources free on ALL of my '98 installs, so it wasn't just with one. But like I said this is with NOTHING running but Explorer and Sys tray. Did you ever get the correct video drivers? I indicated previously that before the correct and real video drivers were installed resources can be MUCH lower, but ONLY if the video drivers are **JUST the drivers alone** and not that control panel garbage or other 'ware that loads with it. Also, the Task Scheduler or Scheduled Tasks and something else that sounds similar to it or those, can change the available resources. I believe there are a total of two of them with names that sound something like this. On some installs, disabling them will give you more resources, but on others ENABLING them can give you more resources! So, mess with those a bit and see what happens. -Clint Merry Christmas to all & God Bless Clint Hamilton, Owner http://OrpheusComputing.com ) http://ComputersCustomBuilt.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello again, Like Pope Julius II said to Michaelangelo, "When will this damn ceiling be finished?" (Well, maybe he didn't say "damn"). Here goes: With AVG, I have the following running in msconfig, startup: AVG7_CC --- that is the Control Center AVG7_AMSVR --- that is the Updater AVG7_EMC --- that is the Email Scanner In ZoneAlarm, two lines appear in Startup --- Zone Labs Client and TrueVector. Zone Lab Client is the ZoneAlarm program, and TrueVector is "The primary component of Zone Labs security software security. It is the TrueVector engine that examines Internet traffic and enforces security rules." --- so says Help. "Help" also says: "By default, Zone Labs security software always asks you whether to block or to allow connection attempts and server access attempts for the Internet and Trusted Zones. In addition, if the TrueVector service is running, but Zone Labs security software is not, program access is denied by default." I would think I need both running in Startup. What would you say? Clint: Harold I mentioned in one of my other posts on this that your MSCONFIG area looks fine, and that you need to figure out if BOTH entries for both AVG and ZA need to be checked and loaded. You'll have to uncheck one then test the program to see if it still works as it should. Since you're running at least 10% too low at boot with nothing loaded, like I also said you need to check for leaks. 74% is fine......IF you have a lot of things loaded and running! The problem with a starting figure that low is you're not going to be able to open as many programs or do as many things since you're starting on the short side. The lower your resources go, the more unstable and slower your PC will get. Although 10% may be the "cut off point", problems can start occurring at 50-60% available. If Ben is speaking of, or if he thought you were speaking of the "Resource Meter" in '98, it itself can consume resources but not that much (it tells you this when you start it). I have a customer's 98SE PC behind me and with the meter running on it at boot it's at 95%, 98% without it. You should check it and see what it says for the 3 resources area, Harold: After opening the computer fresh, the three resource areas read as follows: System Resources: 74% User Resources: 74% GDI Resources: 74% Clint: and also start the "System monitor" and see what it reads. It should be at about 4%-10% @idle right after boot. Both of these are under System Tools. Using the System monitor you can start logging events and also pin some things down by looking at the log. Harold: Regarding System Monitor, I think Ben suggested I not use it because the way I use the computer, it's not necessary. Howver, I appreciate this, Clint, as this is a nice opportunity to learn how these "monitors" work. Eactly what should I be looking at in that window. Regarding the log, and can only read it after shutting down System Monitor. That's all right, but what should I be logging? The default opening of SM is "Kernal Processor Usage" -- however, as you said, I can add other features (in Edit) if I need them. Any suggestions? BY THE WAY, two things: 1. Is it possible that my desktop is too heavy? Could that have any bearing on this discussion? My material on the desktop is consuming 49MB 2. After thining out the desktop to 49MB, I open with 76% free resources (with AVG and ZoneAlarm running). I don't doubt Clint but I'd be very interested to know if anyone besides him opens the computer with 98% resources free. I once read that 85% is about average. Maybe that is true only for Windows 98. AND FINALLY: To those celebrating Christmas, Have a wonderful Merry Christmas! To those who celebrated Chanukah, I hope you had a wonderful Holiday! To those who celebrate something else, or don't celebrate anything - Happy Days, and Happy Thoughts! ============= PCWorks Mailing List ================= Don't see your post? 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