So merging (hmm) some ideas from Fede and Dan, maybe "join~/split~", and a new tap~ object that allows you to pick channels out specifically. Then I think for example "clone osc~" might do OK for making an oscillator bank - assuming it turns out to be practical to send message-time lists to the frequency input. (Maybe that's someting clone should know how to do in other situations too).
still thinking about, for instance, "clone -" to make clones of an anonymous abstraction that you just edit into being live... cheers Miller On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 01:02:43AM +0100, Fede Camara Halac wrote: > <html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; > charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Hi devs,<div><br></div><div>I can edge > 2 cents towards, albeit boringly, join~ and split~ (or > unjoin~)</div><div><br></div><div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); > color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Ps. I am very excited about multichannel signals coming > into pd! Thanks for making that happen! </span></div><div><span > style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, > 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: > rgb(0, 0, 0);">Best!</span></div><div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); > color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br></span></div><div><font color="#000000"><span > style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Fede</span></font></div><div><font > color="#000000"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, > 0);"><br></span></font><div dir="ltr"><div>—</div>Dr. Federico Cámara > Halac<div>Composer / Programmer / Sound Artist<br><div><a > href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://fdch.ar__;!!Mih3wA!HLNtThNWUuXw9RpBcicQ3Mx1Spv0rOty-jEft1oMTi8ARl5KrwNXjoEl_XxoKTMAegcth1VNkKcE0uU$">https://fdch.ar</a></div></div></div><div > dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On 24. Jan 2023, at 00:14, Alexandre > Torres Porres <[email protected]> > wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div > dir="auto">There was a snake in the Bible </div><div > dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div > dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" > class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 at 20:04 Dan Wilcox <<a > href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>> > wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px > 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div > style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">I was trying to > think of a further biblical [moses] analogy, but I guess there is probably a > [moses~] already.<div><br></div><div>Maybe [cross~] / [uncross~] ala > Ghostbusters... "don't cross the streams"<br><div><br><blockquote > type="cite"><div>On Jan 23, 2023, at 11:05 PM, <a > href="mailto:[email protected]" > target="_blank">[email protected]</a> wrote:</div><br><div><span > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">Message: > 2</span><br > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span > > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">Date: > Mon, 23 Jan 2023 18:53:12 -0300</span><br > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span > > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">From: > Alexandre Torres Porres <</span><a href="mailto:[email protected]" > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" > target="_blank">[email protected]</a><span > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">></span><br > > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span > > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">To: > Miller Puckette <</span><a href="mailto:[email protected]" > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" > target="_blank">[email protected]</a><span > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">></span><br > > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span > > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">Cc: > Roman Haefeli <</span><a href="mailto:[email protected]" > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" > target="_blank">[email protected]</a><span > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">>,<span > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular"> </span></span><a > href="mailto:[email protected]" > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" > target="_blank">[email protected]</a><br > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span > > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">Subject: > Re: [PD-dev] pack~/unpack~ (was Re: multichannel signals,</span><br > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span > > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"> > </span><span > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">preliminary > support)</span><br > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span > > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">Message-ID:</span><br > > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span > > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"> > </span><span > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important"><</span><a > > href="mailto:caeasfmgjzmnqj9iapgmj7jned96ddh9vx0b2dwps1sv2-zw...@mail.gmail.com" > > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" > > target="_blank">caeasfmgjzmnqj9iapgmj7jned96ddh9vx0b2dwps1sv2-zw...@mail.gmail.com</a><span > > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">></span><br > > style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span > > 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