I checked the diff between test1 und test2 and found the only change in
the tcl files to be in pd_menus.tcl. 


After commenting out the following lines (79-82):


#    # create separate help menu for pdwindow on macOS (system integration)
#    if {$::windowingsystem eq "aqua" && $::tcl_version >= 8.5} {
#        build_help_menu [menu $::pdwindow_menubar.help]
#        $::pdwindow_menubar entryconfigure "Help" -menu 
$::pdwindow_menubar.help
#    }
#

I have a working Pd-0.56-0.app on macOS 15.5

(The change didn't seem to have an effect immediately. I had to restart
Pd.app a few times before I experienced a difference)


Roman



On Tue, 2025-08-05 at 12:30 +0200, Benjamin Wesch wrote:
> yep. i prepared some builds from several commits between those - just
> don't have a machine to test right now.
> 
> cheers,
> ben
> 
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2025, 12:22 Miller Puckette via Pd-dev
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I can't seem to get hold of the CI "pipelines" right now (getting
> > an 
> > error) but... would it
> > be possible to test some versions between test1 and test2 to narrow
> > things down?
> > 
> > cheers
> > M
> > 
> > 
> > On 8/5/25 12:08 PM, Benjamin Wesch wrote:
> > > > I only hope that this has nothing to do with my rewrite of the
> > > > menus (having different menus for the PdWindow and
> > > > PatchWindows).
> > > since test1 already includes your changes (afaict) and works
> > > well, i
> > > guess they're fine. i'm currently more worried that my attempt of
> > > restoring the "Pd help" entry is causing the issue and somehow
> > > interferes with the initialization:
> > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/commit/eaa3fb53d287d15a07325e5f33a16864b776b547__;!!Mih3wA!F_GMw3H6073_7Fp7FWvY_XV_I47dn7QR7t3zw2x9qXvaLwnRD1_dOHiT5DJgnmz7ruQbCOYH8v2fxxIwQcKh$
> > > 
> > > ... but same here: no idea why that's not an issue on my machine.
> > > 
> > > cheers,
> > > ben
> > > 
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