OK, I just merged this, even though it isn't very well tested yet it's
almost certainly
an improvement - and I need to push it to github to get it compiled for
Mac so that
I can get Maurice (who first reported this) to try it out. Anyway I
fixed a crasher bug
I found while working on a big fat patch with lots of data structures in it.
cheers
Miller
On 8/6/25 4:08 PM, Benjamin Wesch wrote:
So maybe the name of this menu item is a "Macism"?
yep. see
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/master/tcl/apple_events.tcl*L58-L63__;Iw!!Mih3wA!HZItlLeKiMxLuoJUcXtWZ6fw3BfU9rQi68SjMc_35RFIRbt-Kkasb53A4CnhyFn4HjXNjqqvLiBiyCbHnoYL$
... for this reason, the "HTML Manual..." entry is only added to the
help menu for non-macOS or previous TCL versions:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/master/tcl/pd_menus.tcl*L361-L365__;Iw!!Mih3wA!HZItlLeKiMxLuoJUcXtWZ6fw3BfU9rQi68SjMc_35RFIRbt-Kkasb53A4CnhyFn4HjXNjqqvLiBiyC7sDKHU$
i'm not sure whether my new approach is good - so i'd certainly be
glad if more eyes could check this. i see 2 options now:
1. create only the help menu twice outside the loop (what Roman
tested):
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/compare/master...ben-wes:pure-data:fix/tcl8.6help__;!!Mih3wA!HZItlLeKiMxLuoJUcXtWZ6fw3BfU9rQi68SjMc_35RFIRbt-Kkasb53A4CnhyFn4HjXNjqqvLiBiyKnf2XU-$
2. create all these menus twice:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/compare/master...ben-wes:pure-data:fix/tcl8.6help-2__;!!Mih3wA!HZItlLeKiMxLuoJUcXtWZ6fw3BfU9rQi68SjMc_35RFIRbt-Kkasb53A4CnhyFn4HjXNjqqvLiBiyO7Onqlp$
after burning my fingers here, i'd prefer to let others decide. ;)
... and there's now unfortunately a need for a quick bugfix release
based on this mess, i'd be curious if other mac users can reproduce
what i reported in
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/2719__;!!Mih3wA!HZItlLeKiMxLuoJUcXtWZ6fw3BfU9rQi68SjMc_35RFIRbt-Kkasb53A4CnhyFn4HjXNjqqvLiBiyJu4oTPN$
cheers,
ben
On Wed, Aug 6, 2025 at 3:09 PM Roman Haefeli <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, 2025-08-06 at 14:42 +0200, Miller Puckette via Pd-dev wrote:
OK, I'll wait until Roman (or anyone else) can verify this fixes it.
(Meanwhile I've hit at least one crasher bug when deleting
fields from [struct] objects (which sets off a chain of data
resizing and relocation) - so I'll probably have something to update
in a day or two as well.
I applied this patch¹ to pd_menus.tcl and the menu entry "Pd Help"
appeared again and opens the HTML manual in the browser. From what I
can tell, this looks good on macOS Sequoia with this patch.
Note: In Linux, the corresponding menu item is named "HTML Manual"
which I find is more meaningful than just "Pd Help". Also, on the Mac,
all menu items are localized except "Pd Help". I see in the code that
macOS is handled differently. So maybe the name of this menu item is a
"Macism"?
Roman
¹
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