Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > On May 17, 2008, at 5:50 PM, Enrique Erne wrote: > >> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >>> There is much that can and should be done. Here's some ideas ranked >>> into of difficulty: >>> - file a bug report when a help patch is not working >>> - write and improve help patches, and submit them to the patch tracker >> >> is there a convention about how to make it work? i.e. should one use >> declare, import or namespace prefix? >> >> i guess all help-files that are not loaded on default would need a >> declare/import/or-namespace in order to work... >> >> i want to contribute and help to make "all"/more helpfiles work. i >> know there is pddp but afaik it does not solve the >> declare/import/or-namespace problem. >> >> could all developers express their opinion and agree on how to make >> all helpfiles work? :) > > Starting with the PDDP template is a good place to start: > > http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/doc/pddp/templates/ > > > >> i'm not a developer but i would vote for declare >> i.e. [declare -stdlib mrpeach] to packOSC-help.pd >> then it would work with pd vanilla too. > > The declare/namespace/import stuff is still very undefined, so I think > some experiementation would be good. I think you should go ahead and > try it using what you propose. That will be a good test case. Then > we'll figure out what works best. > > Personally, I would use namespace prefixes: [mrpeach/packOSC]. This > will make more sense when there are libraries organized around concepts > rather than authors. So something like [osc/packOSC]
from a user point of view organizing libraries around concepts would be a huge gain. but let's face it: will that every be the case? (rhetorical, but still i would be very happy if somebody has an answer:) ) i just found that: http://puredata.info/dev/PdLibraries http://puredata.info/dev/PdNamespaces for now i don't know how to help and make the helpfiles work. :( >>> - add a search pane to the help panel >> >> is this done in tcl/tk? is there any documentation about that on >> puredata.info? > > It is done however you want to, more or less, but I think a pure Tcl > solution would be possible, and perhaps easiest. > > .hc > > >> >> >> >> >> >>> - help design and code a library format that bundles objectclasses, >>> helpfiles, manuals, examples, etc then write code to index it all, >>> and create a GUI to navigate that content >>> At this point, I think it is mostly a waste of time to do constant >>> little workarounds like moving around objects. We should be putting >>> our scarce resources towards real improvements, not temporary fixes, >>> IMHO. >>> .hc >>> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is > publicity. - Bill Moyers > > > _______________________________________________ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list