I don't know how annoying it would be, as I don't use it that often anyway (I usually stick something like that in [expr~]) but what if a little warning message showed up in the Pd window when a patch loads with [pow~], at least in the next release or two? I think that would just help people catch it quicker.

although this might imply cooperation from the developers (I guess), I find it a good solution.

about the library loading thing: is it possible to put vanilla loading before all other libraries as default? that should ensure vanilla-compatibility before anything else. another developement could involve a more user-friendly startup window: instead of the current one, maybe a dynamic list which scans the folders of extra and adds checkboxes to them? the checked fields will be loaded by next time. also with "select all" and "unselect all" options. but maybe this involves too much effort?

João

.mmb

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

If that is true, there could be a lot of patches out there that use [pow~] as cyclone's pow~ and would need to be changed. Therefore we'd need to make some kind of way to alert people which one they are using and the differences between them. The SVN is pretty clean, there is only one patch in there that uses [pow~]: (nusmuk/distortion.pd)

The vanilla pow~ does make more sense, IMHO. I think the biggest concern is minimizing breakage and helping people avoid annoying bugs.

.hc

On Nov 11, 2009, at 8:40 PM, hard off wrote:

i think you have to look at which method would benefit the greatest amount of people. so, i think you'll find that far more people will benefit from proper vanilla compatibility straight out of the box, than will benefit from the cyclone library.





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