Without $0, one would have to use $1 ... $n for locality. $0 of a parent patch often needs to be passed as $1 to a child for proper locality, for instance, so I don't think they are necessarily THAT different conceptually.
Matt On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Alexandre Porres <por...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Calling this an exception creates >> the impression, that $1 in a message >> is the same as in an object. > Hmm, I see you have a point! But I am just used to consider "$0" and "$1, $2 > ... $n" different/separate things, being "$0" solely a locality sintax. > Putting them as separate concepts I see "$1, $2 ... $n" as two different > things wether in messages or objects, and that "$0" is just useless in > messages. > Anyway, I am cool with what needs to be done in order to put "$0" in > messages, I still think it's a bit of an unnecessary hassle, but it ain't > that much of a big deal after all. > The thing that had no other way around was using the Find feature to > actually find them, so I thought about bringing this all up: the hassle and > the problem. > I now see that uncheking "whole word" in the new version is just another > "way around" rather than actually getting the Find feature to look for "$0", > or even for the window number once we explicitly tell it which one it is. > So, nerverminding about "$0" in messages, I would still make a point here > for the Find feature to be able to find "$0", I hope it isn't much hassle > getting it to do so. > Thanks a bunch folks! > Cheers > alex > > On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Roman Haefeli <reduzie...@yahoo.de> wrote: >> >> >> >> Am 12.11.09 17:21 schrieb "Alexandre Porres" unter <por...@gmail.com>: >> >> > But I totally disagree, I have been teaching a lot basic Pd around, and >> > people >> > always get confused and think they can just throw "$0" in messages. So I >> > have >> > to state and reinforce that there is an exception that it doesn't work >> > on >> > messages. >> >> Calling this an exception creates the impression, that $1 in a message >> is the same as in an object. >> >> > Without an exception at all, it should be easier to get it, as I >> > understand. >> >> Agreed. But currently, the only thing that makes $0 in a message >> exceptional >> is the fact, that it has no meaning at all. Making it be replaced by the >> canvas identifier wouldn't make it less exceptional at all. >> >> roman >> >> >> >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: >> http://mail.yahoo.de > > _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list