On Mon, 5 Jul 2010, João Pais wrote:

considering that the person wants not to use only max, many of those reasons above are environmental constraints decided outside, that the user has no control about

Environmental constraints are real constraints, and are as worthy of attention, even though they are not technical problems, or are only indirectly so.

considering we're speaking about the "normal person", that doesn't either say "I want max" or "I want pd",

I don't think that you're talking about something that is the usual case. I think that most of people exposed to either max or pd will be so through some kind of university classroom, and most likely will be forced to use the software that the teacher decided to use, or that the teacher was forced to use in the first place, by whatever regulation of the department.

However, there are several meaningful concepts of "normal" or "most" that go with the set of people we consider, and to the extent that you can ignore people that will only have ever used max/pd in the context of courses, you could be talking about only long-term max/pd users, and that's something quite entirely different... though they often get started with max by decree, and then say "I want to not have to relearn this stuff, so I will stick with Max".

some enhancements were made in vvvv (kind of Pd but for visuals)

do you have some kind of audio-centric view of pd here ?... sounds like some kind of Pd-vanilla idea that Pd is for audio, and by opposition to that ("unlike pd"), vvvv is for visuals.

BTW, my first years of Pd were strictly with visuals, and though I gradually incorporated tiny bits of audio in my practice, it was really only this year that I really felt that I was doing a significant amount of Pd audio, a big audio patch comparable to the big graphics patches I've been doing for a long time... some things many times bigger than any previous audio patch I had made.

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