On Thu, 30 Sep 2010, brandon zeeb wrote:

According to [namecanvas] help, this object is obsolete?  How else can one send a message to one and only one abstraction without using namecanvas?

I repeated this over and over for years, but Miller isn't listening. He won't listen to you either.

If [namecanvas] ever disappears, it will be replaced by 10 externals of the same name within the next 10 minutes, because people really need it. And it will be a relief because it won't be written "OBSOLETE" all over them.

On Thu, 30 Sep 2010, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

"iemguts" kind of introduces a concept of "this".

It's not a concept of "this" as brandon wants it because it's not a receive-symbol. In iemguts, what is being used is a number that is the number of canvases to be climbed up the hierarchy : so, to get from a subpatch of a subpatch of an abstraction, to the parent of the abstraction, it takes the number 3.

GridFlow has several iemguts-like classes introduced in late 2009, which use this same numbering, but there's no replacement of [namecanvas].

most of the objects work on either "this" or "parent of this" or some other "direct ancestor of this".

I'm beginning to see uses for accessing a "child of this" with iemguts-like externals, but it just can't be done with that numbering scheme, so, I'm still not doing it.

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